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#548531 - 01/03/08 01:13 PM VXII or VXIII
Browning Slayer
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You wouldnt believe the knowledge i have learned just by asking questions on this website? So here is another one. I just bought me the .223 barrel for my Pro Hunter. Now it is time to buy a scope to go on it. How much of a difference is there really between the VXII and the VXIII scopes. Im thinkin 3.5x10x50 power. Is there gonna be a considerable difference between the two? Im thinking especially at longer range shot. Let say 300-500 yards?

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#548540 - 01/03/08 01:21 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: Browning Slayer]
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There is a huge difference in the quality of the lens coatings on the new VXIII's. Do you need to spend the money for that difference? That's the question. All depends on how small of a target you're shooting at, the available ambient light (ie dawn/dusk? ), how frequently you plan on shooting out to 500 yards (will that be just once or twice a year or regularly?), etc. But there will be a noticable difference between the two scopes to most shooters.
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#548546 - 01/03/08 01:26 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: ]
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I will mostly be hunting Coyotes, Bobcat, and maybe the occasional fox with it. That yote i killed really got me excited about it
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#548547 - 01/03/08 01:27 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: Browning Slayer]
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I have a VXIII and I am satisfied with it.
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#548612 - 01/03/08 02:39 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: TN RDG RNR]
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if I was spending that kind of money I would get a 4.5-14 Ziess Conquest,,

I havent bought a leupold since they changed thier Vari-XIII to the VXIII and so on but the Conquest is head and shoulders above the Vari-X III
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#548637 - 01/03/08 02:53 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: mr.big]
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I was in Bass Pro the other day looking through scopes. I realize this is not a "real world" hunting comparison, but I looked through each scope to the same distant dark ceiling corner of the building. I looked at comparable scopes in the 4.5-14x40 (some were 44 mm) range and was amazed at the differences. The Ziess Conquest was significantly brighter and clearer than the VXIII, which was significantly better than the VXII. The Nikon Buckmaster (I think it was a Buckmaster) was about the same as the VXII. The Burris Fullfield was also in the same ballpark as the VXII. Again, this was to my aging 49 year old eyes, not a scientific comparison.

If you are looking to spend enough to get a VXIII, I would take the Ziess home instead in a heartbeat. I liked the reticle in the Ziess over all the others also.

Before you plunk down a good sized chunk of change, I would highly recommend that you do a similar comparison at Bass Pro or Cabela's or Gander Mountain, etc. What is most important is your personal view through a scope, not what me or anyone else tells you.


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#548644 - 01/03/08 03:07 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: woodchuckc]
Whelen Man
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I just bought the 4.5-14x44 Zeiss Conquest a couple of weeks ago and have taken it hunting a few times. Broke it in on an 8 pointer last week. The clarity is great. My only complaint in using it for your use might be the fact that it's a AO scope with side focus and requires a little fiddling with to get optimal clarity. You might be better served with a fixed focus. I've got a 3.5-10x50 VariX-III and so far I think I like the Zeiss the best. I like the extra power range and clarity and the light gathering power seems about the same. I also like the 44s better than 50s, but that may just be me. Hunt for a sale and save the pennies.
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#548649 - 01/03/08 03:10 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: Whelen Man]
mr.big
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there was a 3-9x40 Conquest on GB the other day cheap,,I would rather have that as the 3.5-10x50 Leupold
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#548777 - 01/03/08 05:39 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: mr.big]
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 Originally Posted By: mr.big
if I was spending that kind of money I would get a 4.5-14 Ziess Conquest,,

I havent bought a leupold since they changed thier Vari-XIII to the VXIII and so on but the Conquest is head and shoulders above the Vari-X III

i couldnt disagree more.
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#548851 - 01/03/08 06:14 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: stik]
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I might be sounding like a broken record, but, I used to own Leupolds until I messed up and looked thru a Zeiss. The Leupold is a good second choice.
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#548856 - 01/03/08 06:15 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: Model70Man]
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Ill take the Leupy any day. VXIII would be my choice.
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#549428 - 01/04/08 06:29 AM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: ]
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I would suggest a 3-9. The larger FOV on the 3-9 will be a well needed advantage at closer ranges. Most of the time you will be calling coyotes with the power on 3 anyway, or you should. No telling how may times I have had coyotes or bobcats come in and my scope was set on 6 or 7 and that coyote got away. I think the ideal calling scope is a 3-9. Light, compact, and really all you need for shots out to say 400 yards. The thing some people do not realize about coyotes are they do not give you time to range them and see how far they are 99% of the time. You have maybe 5 seconds max on a coyote that you have called and then he is gone. Higher power scopes are nice if you have one sitting out there sunning himself and unaware of you being there, but that dont happen very often. Most are coming in fast and quick and you need all the field of view you can get in that situation.

Just my opinion ;\)


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#550015 - 01/04/08 02:39 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: statelineRUT]
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There is a huge difference between the vx11 and the vx111. The vx111 is MUCH better in all catergories. I would go with the nikon monarch ucc over than the vx11.The leupold vx3 is my favorite scope.
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#550017 - 01/04/08 02:45 PM Re: VXII or VXIII [Re: mr.big]
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 Originally Posted By: mr.big
if I was spending that kind of money I would get a 4.5-14 Ziess Conquest,,

I havent bought a leupold since they changed thier Vari-XIII to the VXIII and so on but the Conquest is head and shoulders above the Vari-X III


The VX-III is better than the older Vari-x III's. You still might like the Ziess better, but you should check out the newer VX-III's.
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