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#545368 - 12/31/07 06:00 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
Steve Eggers
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I put a 4-16X50 burris on my 338-06 this year and love it
I leave on 16 most of the time unless in tight woods
I want another with european glass that goes to 16 for my 7mm/300 Win Mag

As far as moving more with more power ,your not just looks like it . I assure you if you cant hold it on a deer with 16 power you cant with 4 power either

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#545375 - 12/31/07 06:03 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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I like 3-10x for woods and fields with shots to 300 yards.

4.5-14x is about close to perfect for just about everything.

6-20x and up strictly for target shooting or long range hunting (beyond 500 yards).

Those are my personal preferences. I went with a 2-7x on my mountain rifle this year and I hate it. Although I probably won't shoot past 250 yards with it, I do like to be able to crank up the power on a scope to differentiate between button bucks and yearling does, or even just to tell if it's got spikes or not. I've found I just can't tell the little details that are important with low power scopes.

I've never had trouble picking up game in the scope with the above recommendations, but what you're really talking about is just a matter of preference.

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#545380 - 12/31/07 06:05 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: Model70Man]
WestTn Huntin'man
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The larger objective doesn't increase your field of view. It depends on the scope. I know of 20mm objectives that have a larger field of view than 50mm.

Not trying to start no augruments. The man wants to improve what he has. He did not say what his objective was.For me and alot of other guys a larger objective is a improvement. Offer a positive sugestion to the man. If you can !!!!


Edited by WestTn Huntin'man (12/31/07 06:05 PM)
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#545460 - 12/31/07 07:09 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: Model70Man]
WestTn Huntin'man
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The larger objective doesn't increase your field of view. It depends on the scope. I know of 20mm objectives that have a larger field of view than 50mm.

Which ones are you talking about Model 70???. I'm always open to learning something new.Thats what I like about TnDeer, guys that like to help each other learn more.
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#546218 - 01/01/08 02:31 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
Model70Man
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 Originally Posted By: WestTn Huntin'man
 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The larger objective doesn't increase your field of view. It depends on the scope. I know of 20mm objectives that have a larger field of view than 50mm.

Which ones are you talking about Model 70???. I'm always open to learning something new.Thats what I like about TnDeer, guys that like to help each other learn more.


I got my info from http://www.swfa.com. These are all FOV at 100 yds on low power.

The Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-5x20 has a FOV of 81'
Zeiss Conquest 1.8-5.5x38 has a FOV of 56.4'
Nikon Monarch Gold 1.5-6x42 has a FOV of 64.7'
Swarovski Z6 2-12x50 has a FOV of 63'


Edited by Model70Man (01/01/08 08:47 PM)
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#546325 - 01/01/08 04:49 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: Model70Man]
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I love high magnification, probably because I fire thousands of rounds per year at targets but only one shot per year at a deer.
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#546460 - 01/01/08 06:55 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
IMO

clarity is more important than magnification
Amen to that! I've got an artificial lens in my (scope eye) from a nail to the eye a few years back. No matter how sure I am that I will be "in a big field situation", it's never a fer-sher for me. I used to hunt with 6X40 scope on my .308 and found myself wanting a 2.5 or 3 in cedar thicket situations. However, if you're confident of where you'll be pulling the trigger i.e. shooting house over a bean field, you'll be happy. If you've going for those 250+yard shots,yeah, I would put the high-mag scope on. If you can afford it though, don't scrimp on scope. Good glass is high, but worth it. JMO


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#546545 - 01/01/08 07:56 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: Model70Man]
WestTn Huntin'man
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
 Originally Posted By: WestTn Huntin'man
 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The larger objective doesn't increase your field of view. It depends on the scope. I know of 20mm objectives that have a larger field of view than 50mm.

Which ones are you talking about Model 70???. I'm always open to learning something new.Thats what I like about TnDeer, guys that like to help each other learn more.


I got my info from http://www.sfwa.com. These are all FOV at 100 yds on low power.

The Meopta Meostar R1 1.5-5x20 has a FOV of 81'
Zeiss Conquest 1.8-5.5x38 has a FOV of 56.4'
Nikon Monarch Gold 1.5-6x42 has a FOV of 64.7'
Swarovski Z6 2-12x50 has a FOV of 63'

The link leads to a internet company .I did not see any scope information ????. I'm familar with the bottom 3 scopes.I will read up on the 1st one. I will be purchaseing a new 270 sometime this year and haven't decided what I will scope it with. I have been studying on it a few years.


Edited by WestTn Huntin'man (01/01/08 07:59 PM)
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#546624 - 01/01/08 08:51 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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Meopta is one of the leaders in European optics. They rank right up there with Swarovski, IOR, Zeiss, and Kahles. I had a Meopta Meostar R1 that I sold to a TNDeer member and that scope blew away my Zeiss Conquests in every category except weight.

Try the link now. I had transposed the middle letters. Sorry for that.
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#546783 - 01/01/08 11:00 PM Re: too much magnification? [Re: Model70Man]
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I looked and found some good things on Meopta. They are nice but WAYYYY out of my price range looks like thier low end scopes start at over $500 Sportsmans Guide prices and go on up over a $1000.

Edited by WestTn Huntin'man (01/01/08 11:00 PM)
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