#534315 - 12/19/07 06:46 PM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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Tiny
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The difference in scopes are loud and clear at first and last light. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!
Very ture but one doesn't need to break the bank to get the job done either,dent it a little likely.
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#534317 - 12/19/07 06:48 PM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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buzzr46
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I had a Simmons scope that got sick, and after the non-response by phone and a written letter, I will not buy another Simmons product. I have an Aetec on one of my rifles and so far it is doing great. If it goes bad, then I'll pitch it in the trash. I will not try to deal with them again.
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#534959 - 12/20/07 10:53 AM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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The difference in scopes are loud and clear at first and last light. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!!!! Very ture but one doesn't need to break the bank to get the job done either,dent it a little likely.
I agree, but a $500 scope isn't that bad. I save for them if necessary, but a non light gathering scope will never cost me another big buck. It happened once and that is why I buy the better scopes. Now, I don't have any Swarovskis, but I sure would like to get one someday.
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#534960 - 12/20/07 10:54 AM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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I guess what I mean is, is a trophy of a lifetime worth $500? To me it is...
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#535120 - 12/20/07 01:21 PM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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The problem with looking through them at the store is the stores always have their lights on! Clarity may be equal, but I have not seen a low end scoope yet that can compare to a VX-III or a Ziess. I even bought a Nikon Monarch and its light gathering capabillty was lacking alot. I was suprised and dissapionted. I have since sold the Monarch and replaced it witha VX-III.
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#535140 - 12/20/07 01:35 PM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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scopes i have had over the years
redfeild 3x9 widefeild on a winchester 100 .308 very early 80,s probably cost around 120-140 bucks back then,very good scope back then for what a high school kid could afford.
lupy vari-x II 2x7 my win 70 ot6 1 season 1993 (didnt like the friction adjustment) 199-225 bucks? (should have bought the vari-x III instead that year)
lupy vari-xIII 2.5 x 8 on win 70 ot6 1994-present 359 bucks
do yourself a favor and buy a good scope it will pay for itself over the long run with years of dependablity.
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#535734 - 12/20/07 09:47 PM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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Tiny
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The problem with looking through them at the store is the stores always have their lights on! Clarity may be equal, but I have not seen a low end scoope yet that can compare to a VX-III or a Ziess. I even bought a Nikon Monarch and its light gathering capabillty was lacking alot. I was suprised and dissapionted. I have since sold the Monarch and replaced it witha VX-III.
Totaly agree with you on the "Store Lights",reason I suggest people see if the store will let them take them outside to do the comparesion.Same goes for Bino's 
I can't say I have either as I haven't had the Newer VX line or Ziess around to do a good comparsion to what I would like to.That isn't to say I haven't looked through the above as I have and some others as well.Believe it or not the only 2 that WOWED me were the Leupold VX-L and Simmons Master Series Pro Sport,Pro-Hunter an Atec even better.Burris Singture(sp)line and Ziess Conquest came close to Wowing me.However things might be different side to side at sunset to + 30.
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#535792 - 12/20/07 10:23 PM
Re: Cheap Simmons Expensive Repairs
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Tiny
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Whelen Man,
Was just looking over Simmons and Redifelds Web sites found that the contact address has changed to CA. instead of GA as was the case in the past.Didn't know nor heard anything about a move??
Wondering if they placed the older scope under a different deal than the newer ones since meade took over ie El Paso Weaver vs Newer???
http://www.simmonsoptics.com/ContactUS.htm
On a seprate note this sounds encourageing and do hope it turns out to the goody,been waiting 3 years for them
http://www.redfieldoptics.com/
Edited by Tiny (12/20/07 10:26 PM)
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#535910 - 12/21/07 01:45 AM
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I've got a couple of Leupold VXIII's also and even a few older II scopes they have never let me down. Leupold has been good for me also and the older Redfield wide angle 3X9 scopes with dual X redicule were good scopes for me too.
Edited by Locksley (12/21/07 02:02 AM)
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