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#535086 - 12/20/07 12:50 PM Kudzu - Good or Bad?
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I have researched the value of Kudzu on the internet, and have asked some wildlife biologists the benefits of Kudzu. The topic is all over the board, and surprisingly, little biological information is available on the plant off the internet, because basically, it is consider a devil plant.

My question, is Kudzu on some of the properties you guys are hunting, and if it is, do the deer heavily use this plant?

As a deer manager, would it be a logical decision to try and incorporate it into the deer woods on our place, or are we asking for a huge problem?

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#535096 - 12/20/07 12:58 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Highland]
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I think your asking for a problem. Kudzu will give you cover and it will provide browse in the spring but once you get it started it's nearly impossible to get rid of. Cut some timber and let the laps lay. It will give you the same thing except browse year round. Kudzu shades out EVERYTHING under it.
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#535106 - 12/20/07 01:10 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: TAS]
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I would much rather promote honeysuckle than plant kudzu.
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#535112 - 12/20/07 01:13 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: BSK]
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We have tried honeysuckle transplanting and have not been successful. We have some areas that are naturally growing honeysuckle and have opened those areas up from the tree canopy. They have exploded, but we have not had much luck transplanting it to other areas. Any suggestions?
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#535124 - 12/20/07 01:22 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Highland]
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You may have to protect areas where you are trying to establish honesuckle. Deer have a bad habit of eating the newly transplanted sections. I try to cover transplanted sections under a "tent" of chicken-wire. This allows deer to eat what grows beyond the wire but always protects the stock near the ground.
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#535142 - 12/20/07 01:39 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
You may have to protect areas where you are trying to establish honesuckle. Deer have a bad habit of eating the newly transplanted sections. I try to cover transplanted sections under a "tent" of chicken-wire. This allows deer to eat what grows beyond the wire but always protects the stock near the ground.


Yep and tree laps work great for that also. By the time the laps rot the honeysuckle is well established.
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#535230 - 12/20/07 03:05 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: TAS]
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no kudzu!!!
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#535282 - 12/20/07 03:59 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Football Hunter]
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Football Hunter - bad experience with kudzu?
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#535327 - 12/20/07 04:55 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Highland]
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I would definitely not transplant kudzu. It is very very invasive.
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#535538 - 12/20/07 07:43 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: smstone22]
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We have kudzu on our place, and i do see the deer grazing on it at times, and believe they even bed down in the stuff. BUT, it is a losing battle during the summer trying to keep the stuff cut back. It takes over everything. I would not recommend planting it.
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#535558 - 12/20/07 07:57 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: eastTN270]
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If you plant kudzu you will soon have ONLY kudzu on your place.
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#535767 - 12/20/07 10:08 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: RUGER]
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kudzu is an irreversible misery, that stuff can grow 1-2 feet per day and will choke out EVERYTHING. The only thing that I would use kudzu for is for landscape revenge on someone you don't like. BSK, do you know where I can get some kudzu seed. \:\) Seriously, it was first used by CCC 1930s(I think) for cover management practices to reduce erosion and stabilization of soft road cuts. Now it's a menace. I don't know how it escapes any government eradication efforts with regards to it being an invasive species, they may have just wrote it off.
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#535788 - 12/20/07 10:21 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Stovepipe]
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kudzu is a excotic invasive. It is not native to our country was imported as a experment.It was a big mistake. It takes over and kills native plant life and can not be controlled. Deer will eat it and bed in it. Good Luck hunting or tracking something in it.
http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/plants/kudzu.shtml
http://www.tneppc.org/TNEPPC2004PlantList-8x11.pdf
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#535907 - 12/21/07 01:15 AM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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Run. Away.

Ever see the movie "The Blob?" Kudzu does the same thing. If you stand still long enough it'll eat you too.

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#536161 - 12/21/07 09:39 AM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Trapper John]
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Only thing kudzu is good for is brushing a duck blind.
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#536357 - 12/21/07 12:28 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Stovepipe]
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 Originally Posted By: stovepipe
kudzu is an irreversible misery, that stuff can grow 1-2 feet per day and will choke out EVERYTHING. The only thing that I would use kudzu for is for landscape revenge on someone you don't like. BSK, do you know where I can get some kudzu seed. \:\) Seriously, it was first used by CCC 1930s(I think) for cover management practices to reduce erosion and stabilization of soft road cuts. Now it's a menace. I don't know how it escapes any government eradication efforts with regards to it being an invasive species, they may have just wrote it off.


stovepipe, actually USDA (NRCS) has 2 different cost share programs available for kudzu eradication. This opportunity has been available for the last 3 years.
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#536708 - 12/21/07 06:11 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Quailman]
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 Originally Posted By: Quailman
 Originally Posted By: stovepipe
kudzu is an irreversible misery, that stuff can grow 1-2 feet per day and will choke out EVERYTHING. The only thing that I would use kudzu for is for landscape revenge on someone you don't like. BSK, do you know where I can get some kudzu seed. \:\) Seriously, it was first used by CCC 1930s(I think) for cover management practices to reduce erosion and stabilization of soft road cuts. Now it's a menace. I don't know how it escapes any government eradication efforts with regards to it being an invasive species, they may have just wrote it off.


stovepipe, actually USDA (NRCS) has 2 different cost share programs available for kudzu eradication. This opportunity has been available for the last 3 years.
cool, and thanks for rubbing my nose in my error of facts \:D
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#536813 - 12/21/07 07:44 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Stovepipe]
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Ha! Not trying to rub your nose in it. A LOT of people don't realize that there are government programs (both state and federal) out there to help you manage your property. \:\)
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#539752 - 12/24/07 11:43 PM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Quailman]
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I would think that it would actually be illegal to transplant kudzu, since there are government programs in place to get rid of it.

Definitely research that before trying it.

Best bet - use something else. Due to its growth rate, you'll have your hands full trying to contain its spreading.
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#539804 - 12/25/07 12:57 AM Re: Kudzu - Good or Bad? [Re: Crosshairy]
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Always look at Kudzu as an invader and an enemy ...have seen Deer
in it many times and they even eat it when it is brown and dry
But I dont think I would ever consider planting it..LOL
Several other plants and crops to choose from. Good Luck
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