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#533731 - 12/19/07 09:49 AM QDM Club Penalties
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The property we are hunting has practiced QDMA for over 20 years. The membership turn over is low, we may go five years without a new member. Our main goal is not to harvest any bucks under the age of 3 1/2. This property is very unique in the fact that some 2 1/2 are in the 115 - 125 class. We are hunting in S.E. TN, and are harvesting some incredible deer for the area, and really any area. Over the last two years three 140 + have been harvested. Every year one or two 2 1/2 bucks are harvested, and in most cases, are truly tough calls in a hunting environment in the woods and a decsision is limited to 1- 5 seconds to shoot or not. However, there are a few members who seem to struggle each year with identifying 2 1/2 year olds. They are harvesting some good looking bucks, but are 2 1/2 by jaw bone aging. We as a club are trying to discourage this by talking about the deer and the potiential they have with these members, but so far have not been successful. We are not to the point of asking them to leave the club, but what kind of (punishment is not the word I am looking for, maybe penalty is better) penalty or consequences should we as a club try to envoke to better help ensure more of our 2 1/2 year olds are advancing to the older age class?
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#533745 - 12/19/07 09:56 AM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: Highland]
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If the harvest of top-end 2 1/2 year-olds is only 1 or 2 per year, I don't see a problem. Depending on the size of the property, I really don't think those minimal harvests are doing much harm.
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#533748 - 12/19/07 09:58 AM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: Highland]
ClubHead
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One buck limit.Make it count.
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#533783 - 12/19/07 10:17 AM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: ClubHead]
muddyboots
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If they shoot one that is not legal by the rules then there buck hunting is done for the year. I bet that would stop it.
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#533812 - 12/19/07 10:35 AM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: muddyboots]
Winchester
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If its the same people year after year, its easy to fix! If not, either get everybody a better education, or set a penalty in place.
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#533864 - 12/19/07 11:24 AM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: Winchester]
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if it happens at chaney lake, the person will loose his chance for the big buck award!

oh! the big buck award is $1400.00!!!!!!!!
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#533881 - 12/19/07 11:37 AM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: Chaneylake]
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In most of Tennessee, a 115" deer is a good deer. Be hard to turn one of them down. There are exception areas. I'd just be happy to have a killable population of those in most of TN.
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#533937 - 12/19/07 12:14 PM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: AlabamaSwamper]
ShotgunSP
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I agree with what BSK says... But you could also do an "earn a buck" system. If the first buck is younger than your target age, that member must kill x number of does to earn another chance at a buck.

Edited by ShotgunSP (12/19/07 12:14 PM)

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#533943 - 12/19/07 12:21 PM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: ShotgunSP]
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A couple of 2.5 yr olds will not hurt you one bit.
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#533953 - 12/19/07 12:38 PM Re: QDM Club Penalties [Re: ShotgunSP]
Chaneylake
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regardless of how hard you try to teach people what to kill, you will never be 100% successful. there are too many variables that a hunter has to deal with. some hunters pick up on this rather quick, others will never be able to properly judge a shooter. i have seen hunters that kill the first 8 point that they see, bring the buck out and grab the camera. it continues year after year. beauty is always in the eyes of the beholder the same as what some see and do not see as a large mature buck. we try anything that we can think of. we know that we will never have every hunter that can identify a shooter, we keep trying though, and this has helped to keep mistakes to a minimum.
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