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#498916 - 11/19/07 10:30 AM BSK a little help please
Culom
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I addressed this to BSK because I trust his knowledge and experience not to slight anyone. Advice from everyone is welcome.

Here is the deal. I just joined a new club this year. 2100 acres in Perry County. We have some really nice deer (130 inch 9 point taken this weekend), but we know it could be better.

We have a year round creak running almost the entire length of the property, A big ridge with 4 major fingers and their respective hollows, and about 250 acres of "bottoms" that are available to plant. As well as several .5 - 1.5 acre plots up on the ridge.

In August we lymed and fertalized ( I am not sure if a soil test was done)and planted about 20 acres (broken up into different plots) We mixed our own seed as I remember it was mostly soy beans, winter wheat, buck wheat, turnips, Australian winter peas, and a bit of clover up top on the ridge.

It was explained to me that these were mainly as an attractant and not so much for nutrition.

Now I have heard that the plan is to plant corn and soy beans in the spring. It doesn't seem to me that this would be the best way to go with our goals of more and larger bucks (body size and antler)and larger does.

So I guess it boils down to are corn and soy beans good, bad or indifferent for a spring crop when it comes to those goals?

If someone can recommend a good book on food plots and deer nutrition that would be a great help. I might just buy a copy to leave on the table at camp LOL.
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#499030 - 11/19/07 11:30 AM Re: BSK a little help please [Re: Culom]
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I doubt that foodplots will do a whole lot for the size of your deer if your deer density is out of wack. Although they will be a great attractant.
Corn is a great attractor this time of year. I plant a good bit myself and I believe it does help hold deer in the area.
A good book is "Quality Food Plots" put out by QDMA. It is available from their website or Amazon.com. Another great source is available from UT dept of Agriculture. Just search for Craig Harper he's the author. It is a really great publication and I use it more than the book to tell the truth. Plus its free!


Edited by kholmes (11/19/07 11:33 AM)
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#499075 - 11/19/07 12:14 PM Re: BSK a little help please [Re: kholmes]
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thanks!!!
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#499100 - 11/19/07 12:35 PM Re: BSK a little help please [Re: Culom]
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Soy beans and Corn both provide nutrition (how much depends on the elements in the soil) but soy beans are great for protein and Corn is great for carbs. The deer density should determin the size of the plot in that if the deer density is VERY high they will eat it before the crops are truly mature.
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#499450 - 11/19/07 04:24 PM Re: BSK a little help please [Re: ]
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Quality food plots from QDMA and growing and managing successful food plots for wildlife in the SE from UT.

I will recommend you not put all those plots in annuals. You need a 50/50 or a 60/40 split between annual plots and perennial plots. This way,.. you will have year round nutrition from your plots and they will always be something growing for them in them.
Also,... nutrition is mostly found from soil and plants that has been properly limed and fertilized from a soil test. SO,.. thats much more important than the seed you use.

Good luck.....
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#499740 - 11/19/07 07:36 PM Re: BSK a little help please [Re: deerchaser007]
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ditto Jeremy
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#510511 - 11/28/07 07:50 AM Re: BSK a little help please [Re: deerchaser007]
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 Originally Posted By: deerchaser007
I will recommend you not put all those plots in annuals. You need a 50/50 or a 60/40 split between annual plots and perennial plots. This way,.. you will have year round nutrition from your plots and they will always be something growing for them in them.



Normally I would agree with that, but with less than 1% of the property in food plots, I would plant the highest volume food producers in those limited acreage plots I could find, and that usually means annuals.



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Also,... nutrition is mostly found from soil and plants that has been properly limed and fertilized from a soil test. SO,.. thats much more important than the seed you use.


Now that I completely agree with.
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#510515 - 11/28/07 07:53 AM Re: BSK a little help please [Re: BSK]
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Culom,

Yes, soybeans and corn are excellent food plot plants for specific uses (soybeans as a summer proetein source and corn as a fall/winter energy source and attractant).

However, mixtures of plants and proper soil preparation are probably going to do more good than what you plant. Make sure plots are going to be soil tested and limed/fertilized to recommendations.

But food plots are only a small part of the management equation. You will get more "bang for your buck" out of good habitat management than just a few food plots. The property needs the right mount of natural regrowth and cover habitat to maximize it's potential.
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