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#496089 - 11/16/07 10:16 AM Re: Question for experts [Re: BSK]
10 Point

Registered: 11/10/06
Posts: 2543
Loc: Bellevue Tn

Just lots and lots of yearling bucks moving.

That's what I have seen also
And a few older ones just bedding by themselves in heavy cover not moving much. Might be this years situation with the water, food, and heat all combined. I have a feeling all will change after the rain we have been getting and last nights heavy frost. We will soon see!
Manipulation is the KEY!
Use it willfully & be aware of it from others!

#496146 - 11/16/07 10:51 AM Re: Question for experts [Re: BuckWild]
Jerkasourous of the non-typical kind

Registered: 03/11/99
Posts: 65979
Loc: Nashville, TN

 Originally Posted By: BuckWild
Saw a little dogging of does the end of October then went back the 7th of Nov. and all that activity had stopped. Just weird.

I saw the same thing here BuckWild. I have some night-time pictures of multiple bucks pestering some does in food plots around Halloween, but nothing since.
"Know where you stand, and stand there" --Jesuit Father Daniel Berrigan

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#498548 - 11/19/07 06:22 AM Re: Question for experts [Re: BSK]

Registered: 08/19/01
Posts: 31209
Loc: Kansas City, Mo.

 Originally Posted By: BSK
I tell you what, it just gets stranger and stranger. I looked around while checking cameras yesterday and just NOTHING in the way of rut sign. No pictures of deer running, no active scrape-working, no pictures of older bucks cruising. Just lots and lots of yearling bucks moving.

I even drove I-40 from Nashville to Jackson and back and not one dead deer on the freeway. I spike in car-deer collisions is a great anecdotal indicator of the rut, yet not a single dead deer.

I've never seen anything like this. Right now (Nov. 15) is generally the peak of breeding on my place.

Now research clearly indicates acorn failures heavily influences rubbing and scraping activity, and my research confirms this, with poor acorn crops decreasing rubbing activity by 50-70%. Research also indicates an acorn failure in an acorn-driven deer herd can delay breeding, but I've never witnessed that before. We've had many acorn failures over the years, but the rut was always the same, acorns or no acorns.

This is definitely a year like none I've seen before.

I'm seeing the exact same thing where I'm hunting in Hickman county . The scrapes are just starting to appear , the mature bucks aren't active yet , and very few roadkills here in Maury and Hickman .
Seems almost like the October lull period before the rut kicks into gear . I have a feeling it won't kick into gear until after Thanksgiving .

#509826 - 11/27/07 06:56 PM Re: Question for experts [Re: BuckWild]
hard county
6 Point

Registered: 11/26/07
Posts: 558
Loc: hornsby tennessee

according to charles alsheimer it all has to do with the moon
the first or second full moon after the autumnal equinox or something
"The gross heathenism of civilization has generally destroyed nature, and poetry, and all that is spiritual."
John Muir

"The mountains are calling and I must go."
John Muir

#509903 - 11/27/07 07:36 PM Re: Question for experts [Re: hard county]
16 Point

Registered: 01/11/04
Posts: 16954
Loc: Allardt, TN

Charles Alsheimer is dead wrong lol
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-Let Him Go, So He Can Grow

#510001 - 11/27/07 08:16 PM Re: Question for experts [Re: smstone22]
Chris Tripp
10 Point

Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 3762
Loc: Brush Creek, TN

yep ole Charles is a little behind on his education... lol
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