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#486917 - 11/09/07 04:53 PM BSK
deerchaser007
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BSK,... This is from the management topic of boonerbucks off of serious deer talk from yesterday. I think it got lost on the 2nd page,.. but would like your opinion concerning my situation.
In my process over the past 6 years on my 85 acres i've went thru every aspect of growing into my management program. Using trail cameras, i've monitored my progress. Started out with just ole hardwoods habitat with little plots. At that time,. i got a good mix year round of does and bucks pictured. About 3 years ago i started seeing this transitition your speaking of(more does). Whats got me puzzled is the past 2 years i'm capturing more pics of bucks during the summer, and less pics of bucks during the winter. Very few pics of does during the summer, but ALOT of does during the winter. Hunting observations are the same. 5 years ago all we would see while hunting would be bucks(mostly 1.5 and 2.5), with a few does. Now,.. its all does with a few bucks being observed during our hunting.
The habitat in our area is better as a whole. Not only did i select cut my 85 acres, the neighbor select cut his hollers on his 250 acres and another property took cows off the land which provided more habitat in the woods and in the fields. SO,. we all have better habitat. Myself and another guy across the road have the bulk in food plots though.
So with that being said,.. why am i seeing more bucks during the summer and less during the winter?? Why are the bucks leaving my property and going to the others ,. but i'm not catching any new bucks on camera that shifted their range to my place??
Any information will be appreciated!! THANKS
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#486959 - 11/09/07 05:42 PM Re: BSK [Re: deerchaser007]
kholmes
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Great question. I have almost the same scenario. I believe my habitat is better than surrounding properties.(I know I work harder at it than the neighbors). It would seem I would have more does during the summer fawning season than bucks due to great cover and food sources. Not the case. Buck pictures this summer outweighed does 3:1. Now I can't buy a buck picture much less see one outside a yearling.
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#487431 - 11/10/07 05:07 AM Re: BSK [Re: kholmes]
richmanbarbeque
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Very good question and topic.
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#487631 - 11/10/07 10:19 AM Re: BSK [Re: richmanbarbeque]
megalomaniac
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Unfortunately, there are just some properties for whatever reason are just not used as much by deer during different parts of the year. You're doing the right things to maximize your chances at a good buck, but that still doesn't mean they'll filter off every property within a mile to yours.

I myself own a 150 acre farm that is similar. Deer all over the place on it during the summer and early fall, but the majority of the bucks shift off it in late September/early October. Very frustrating.

Interestingly, the turkeys do just the opposite. They cover up the farm in the fall/winter, but shift off the farm in late March. Just kills me, but fortunately, I've got some other places to hunt.

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#487653 - 11/10/07 10:47 AM Re: BSK [Re: megalomaniac]
smstone22
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I would like to hear more on this also. On our 342 acre place here is Fentress we have just a very few does during the spring and summer. When bow season hits we get alot of does and at best one little yearling buck. When November hits, we get LOADED with deer. We go from one yearling buck to usually around 6-8 bucks that stay on the property all through winter.
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#487870 - 11/10/07 03:16 PM Re: BSK [Re: smstone22]
Stalker
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I am interested in BSK's answer on this as well...my 120 acr. did the same thing this year...I had mostly bucks durring Spring and Summer, then all of a sudden they were gone and now I'm all does and one spike...
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#487872 - 11/10/07 03:19 PM Re: BSK [Re: Stalker]
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What can we do, if anything, to reverse this? Or level it off?
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#488116 - 11/10/07 06:27 PM Re: BSK [Re: Stalker]
kholmes
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I didn't bowhunt our farm this year to try to improve buck sightings. Maybe they are there and just to smart to walk in front of a camera.
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#488196 - 11/10/07 07:19 PM Re: BSK [Re: megalomaniac]
deerchaser007
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
Unfortunately, there are just some properties for whatever reason are just not used as much by deer during different parts of the year. You're doing the right things to maximize your chances at a good buck, but that still doesn't mean they'll filter off every property within a mile to yours.

I myself own a 150 acre farm that is similar. Deer all over the place on it during the summer and early fall, but the majority of the bucks shift off it in late September/early October. Very frustrating.

Interestingly, the turkeys do just the opposite. They cover up the farm in the fall/winter, but shift off the farm in late March. Just kills me, but fortunately, I've got some other places to hunt.


Seasonal shift is not a issue. I captured on a regular basis this summer a 17 inch wide 3.5 year old 8 point,.. he was kiled by one of the guys across the road during late archery. Less than a 1/4 mile. I also captured a 19 inch wide 8 point i thought was 4.5 ,.. but turned out 3.5 by jawbone. He was killed this sunday of muzzleloader by one of my nieghbors ,.. again less than 1/4 mile. I never captured these bucks out of velvet ,. but did catch one of my 2.5 years old from summer stil using my place. Only 1 pic 2 weeks ago. No new bucks come in,.. but so many does and little ones i can't even count.
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#488202 - 11/10/07 07:22 PM Re: BSK [Re: kholmes]
deerchaser007
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 Originally Posted By: kholmes
I didn't bowhunt our farm this year to try to improve buck sightings. Maybe they are there and just to smart to walk in front of a camera.


I move my cameras constantly,.. from fence crossings,to plots, to heavy trails, to thicket edges. Yep ,.. i'll miss some i know,. but i should be capturing some buck pics. Besides the 1.5 year olds!!

I shouldn't have bowhunted mine,. waste of time. Never saw the first deer.
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