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#488230 - 11/10/07 07:33 PM Re: BSK [Re: Stalker]
deerchaser007
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 Originally Posted By: Stalker
What can we do, if anything, to reverse this? Or level it off?


WELL,.. from the other post on here i see i'm not alone in my situation,.. maybe BSK or someone else will help us out. Cause i'm clueless at this point to know how to correct it ,. or even level it back out. BUT,. as much as i love QDM,.. i will stop practicing it on my place if this trend does not change. On my particular farm ,.. we were killing better bucks before i started all this!! And for sure seing alot more bucks during hunting season. I'm beginning to wonder if a person can go to far with his management plan,.. and hender his hunting.
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#488308 - 11/10/07 08:01 PM Re: BSK [Re: deerchaser007]
kholmes
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These bucks were regulars all summer. I have tons of pictures of them.

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This is the best buck picture since Mid-Sept.



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My trade off is not so good. I knew I would loose these deer with seasonal shift. I just figured I would get a couple of 3.5
year olds to take their place. Who knows maybe the rut in a couple of weeks will get em in the open.
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#488345 - 11/10/07 08:17 PM Re: BSK [Re: kholmes]
deerchaser007
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Both of these have been harvested less than a 1/4 mile!!

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#488777 - 11/11/07 07:40 AM Re: BSK [Re: deerchaser007]
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Very interesting question deerchaser007. Unfortunately, I know of no "documented" situation like yours. If the property has a lot of does in summer, but no bucks until the rut, that's an easy (and common) one. But bucks in summer that are gone in fall/winter while becoming loaded with does is a tough one. I'll have to ask around with other managers and see if anyone has encountered this problem and what they did about it.

But also remember that this year has been a very, VERY wierd year. Nothing is matching the "normal" patterns. I still can't figure out exactly what is happening this year.

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#488818 - 11/11/07 08:37 AM Re: BSK [Re: BSK]
Chris Tripp
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sounds like your bucks have a dumbbell range... over the years we have reversed our patterns by decreasing sanctuary in some areas while increasing sanctuary in others, along with closing off certain natural travel routes that leave the property.
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#488820 - 11/11/07 08:38 AM Re: BSK [Re: Chris Tripp]
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I believe we will see the rut around Nov.15-17
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#488858 - 11/11/07 09:08 AM Re: BSK [Re: Chris Tripp]
deerchaser007
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Thanks BSK. If you find out ANY info,.. please share with me. This is the 2nd year this has happened. And its very disappointing. I really don't want a third if you know what i mean.

Thanks Chris also. That makes since. The past 3 years we have left the same areas no enter areas on my 85 acres. Due to high hunting pressure around me ,.. i actually set aside about 35 acres of the 85 acres in sancuary. We don't even enter the right side of the property cause its the thickest best cover and provides the best habitat for the winter. The long ridge with the saddle has always been the best deer movement area ,.. and we keep the bottom cedar thicket closed off. Hoping for them to travel thru and feel safe entering and leaving,. but make a mistake during the entering and leaving. We may have to open up some of that right side and start hunting it again.

Appreciate it guys...
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#488900 - 11/11/07 09:59 AM Re: BSK [Re: deerchaser007]
Stalker
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Thanks, BSK and Chris Tripp...

BSK, if you find any info will you please post it. I've got the same troubles...I do not know where all these does are coming from or where all the good bucks I had on trail cam went but it is driving me crazy.

We also, leave sanctuary areas that we do not hunt, if something does not change we may have to start hunting them as well.
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#488935 - 11/11/07 10:31 AM Re: BSK [Re: Stalker]
kholmes
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This is a great discussion. I feel that as more small land owners implement a QDM program they will feel these same growing pains we are experiencing right now.
Thanks BSK and Chris. I have had the same sanctuaries for 5 years maybe it is time for a change.
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#489244 - 11/11/07 05:51 PM Re: BSK [Re: kholmes]
Crosshairy
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do you guys use trail cams in your sanctuary areas?
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