#469681 - 10/27/07 07:13 AM
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Has anyone else had consistent trouble with powerbelts and shots up close on deer? I have had 4 deer in recent years that were shot perfect and left minimal blood trails. They also traveled over 100 yards. About 5 years ago I was shooting the barnes copper solids and killed two one dropped in 10 yards even with a liver hit and the other sprayed awesome for 45 yards on a double lung shot. I will be taking the bow in the tree this year. I feel that the pb might be blowing through to quickly and not openning up on close shots. I already plan on shooting shockwaves next year, but with teaching this year I havent had a chance to make a change. Anyone else got any advice/experiences?
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#469703 - 10/27/07 07:44 AM
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Yes...don't like then...Haven't had a problem since I switched to Hornady
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#469775 - 10/27/07 09:52 AM
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Has anyone else had consistent trouble with powerbelts and shots up close on deer? I have had 4 deer in recent years that were shot perfect and left minimal blood trails. They also traveled over 100 yards. About 5 years ago I was shooting the barnes copper solids and killed two one dropped in 10 yards even with a liver hit and the other sprayed awesome for 45 yards on a double lung shot. I will be taking the bow in the tree this year. I feel that the pb might be blowing through to quickly and not openning up on close shots. I already plan on shooting shockwaves next year, but with teaching this year I havent had a chance to make a change. Anyone else got any advice/experiences?
Do a search on "Powerbelt" in this Forum. You will find many discussions on how the 295 grn and lighter PowerBelts expand too rapidly and do not produce full pass-throughs. However, those that have switching to the 348 or 405 PowerBelts are getting full pass-throughs and good blood-trails.
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#470298 - 10/27/07 06:52 PM
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I think you have it backwards about not "opening up" at close range. they actually expand too much at close range.
Different bullets are designed to expand at different velocities. If the bullet is not sturdy enough, it will expand too quickly at high velocities (read that close range, too) and even breakup. The resulting pieces are too small and don't have enough momentum to punch through the skin on the far side. No exit hole, less blood.
I had a .308 handload that works great at ranges from 50 - 200 yards, but when a big 12 point walked out at only 3 yards from my tree, the bullet broke up and there were many tiny holes on the far chest. But the buck piled up in about 50 yards.
I'm trying Hornady XTP 300 grain this year. They're rated to expand properly at velocites from over 1700 FPS to down to 800 fps, which with my load should be about 200 yards or more.
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#470765 - 10/28/07 06:17 AM
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Go back to Barnes
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#472228 - 10/29/07 08:15 AM
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You either like them or hate them. The deer I have shot with them have all dropped within several yards of where I shot them. I've shot deer from 10 to 160 yards without any problems. I don't always get pass throughs with my slug gun either so I didn't consider it to be necessary with my ML. I was more concerned with accuracy and ease of loading which I get using the powerbelts.
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#473163 - 10/29/07 05:43 PM
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BARNES 250gr. EXPANDER! I've used this bullet for years and have ALWAYS had complete pass throughs.The blood trails are awesome and always short.
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#473601 - 10/29/07 09:04 PM
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POWERBELTS SUCK ! ! ! !
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#473768 - 10/29/07 10:58 PM
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I have shot close to 10 deer in the last 3 years with powerbelt 295gr. copper hollow points. I cant complain. I am shooting 150gr. of triple 7 pellets out of a thompson encore. My specialty is in muzzleloading and bow hunting. I have had pass throughs and had the bullet lodge on the other side of the animal. I have shot Shockwaves as well with basically the same results. If penetration is your main focus use a solid bullet such as lead ball, maxi-ball, or lke another person posted a 350-400gr. bullet. Every animal is different so the bullet will have different results based on shot location and the size of the deer. the lower weighted hollow point bullets arent designed only for penetration. They also pack a great deal of shock that the heavy bullet doesnt provide as much of at all ranges. Shoot 150grs. of powder and 295gr. hollow point and you will be tracking less and blood trails will never be a issue.
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#473879 - 10/30/07 05:59 AM
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TennBuck
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i have shot several deer with 295 pb's also. and they all fell in site, thank god! i'm not going to 150 grains of powder so the bullet will work. my friend has shot 180 gr hornady for years. he begged my years ago to try the honady's. i've seen his results and they are far better than minne with 1/2 the weight. i want to see my deer go down or track "a" blood trail. thehornady xp 240 grains will give me that. and they load just as easy as as the PB's.
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#474024 - 10/30/07 08:22 AM
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TennBuck, I've never tried the hornady bullets. When you say they load as easy as PB, is that with a clean barrel? Have you tried loading them after shooting once? I tried the shockwaves and couldn't load without cleanning the barrel, that's one of the main reasond I shoot the PB.
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#474072 - 10/30/07 09:07 AM
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The PB is the easiest loading bullet I have ever tried with shockwave being the hardest. I have shot the 240gr XTP Hornady hollow points and they are moderate on the loading part with good results as well. I choose to shoot 150gr. of powder for the flatter trajectory. I have noticed my gun groups better with that amount of powder as well. My Dads gun doesnt shoot 150 as well so he shoots 100, but he shoots pyrodex instead of 777. Which brings up another subject which is better between pyrodex and 777? 777 is easier to clean and seems to burn better but havent checked the velocities or range on the two....
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#474488 - 10/30/07 02:06 PM
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I've had 2 different experiences with 245 gr aerotip powerbelts. One doe I hit at 115 yards had a complete upper chest passthru and a 9 pt hit at 45 yards had an entrance and no exit. Makes sense as the round had apparently slowed down enough at 115 yards to not expand enough and the one close up just exploded. Obviously both deer are dead so I guess it worked either way.........
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#474564 - 10/30/07 03:01 PM
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I used the 295 gr PB for the last four years- never lost one and most went down within 30 yards (w/ 2 50 gr 777 pellets), but of all shot, only one passed through both sides. I prefer to have an exit hole,so have switched this year to the TC 250 gr shockwaves(?). Accuracy looks as good as the PB, so the proof will be in the performance- plan on finding out Saturday morning! Good luck.
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#474625 - 10/30/07 04:04 PM
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i shot 10 in a row about 30 minutes ago. no problem!
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#474746 - 10/30/07 05:54 PM
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if you dont have a reallllly long barrel with those 150 gr. loads ,you are blowing about 30gr. of UNBURNT powder out the barrel. spread newspaper out about 20 yds in front of you and shoot over it. look at all the unburnt powder.
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#475469 - 10/31/07 08:30 AM
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Thanks for the info Tennbuck, I'll think I'll get some and give them a try.
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#475494 - 10/31/07 08:51 AM
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Stik,
I agree. I tried 150 grains in my Encore a couple weekends ago, noticed a LOT of unburnt powder on the hood of the truck. Backed off to 100 grains like I had been using and the accuracy improved as well.
For me, 100 grains is enough.
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#475576 - 10/31/07 09:36 AM
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That is the best advice you will ever get!
WIth your success with the Barnes, why did you ever go to something else. I swapped last year and I won't swap again.
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#476090 - 10/31/07 03:05 PM
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The powerbelts have always bothered me a little and continue to pose a conundrum for me. I have been shooting the 295 gr hollowpoints for a number of years and the groups I can get out of them are amazing.
I have killed probably around 10 deer with them and have only had pass thru one time. This used to really bug me (and still does some) but I stuck with them b/c of the confidence their accuracy gave me. As I thought about it more, I started to realize that I was complaining (if only to myself) about a bullet that had done nothing other than provide 100% success every time I have asked it to perform.
I think it is important to understand the powerbelts limitations and not try to break down a shoulder or attempt a texas heart shot, but beyond that I have no problem recommending them.
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#476173 - 10/31/07 04:21 PM
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I just went out to the catoosa firing range today with my cva kodak and with open sights i was puting all of 5 shots within a 7 in circle.I was shooting 100 gr pyrodex pellets and the 270 gr platinum powerbelts.Those are the only bullets i can get to group for me.I bought some hornady 300 gr sabots(not the sst's),I think the express mags,to try, but after i seen how the powerbelts shot,I didn't even open them.
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#476968 - 11/01/07 12:04 PM
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I have never had any problems out of power belts except for when using shockleys powder. other than that, they have been very good at the range (still haven't shot a deer yet).
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#478452 - 11/02/07 02:23 PM
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I will put the 223 gr. platinum up against any bullet you are shooting. I shoot a 45 caliber and have killed several deer with it, great exit holes, and the deer have not taken more than a few steps. I have killed many deer with a 50 cal thompson center percussion, open sights, but my range was limited to about 100 yards. With 45 and pw platinum I killed an 8 ptr that field dressed 140 lbs at 160 yards last year. I also killed a mature doe at 190 yards. But get this, I am going to hunt with a flintlock some this year. I have hunted some in years past with it but never seem to see any deer when I take the flintlock but will still hunt with it some.
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#479526 - 11/04/07 07:41 AM
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I shot the 295 powerbelts for several years- great accuracy but only one pass through. I switched to the Shockwave 250 with the easy glide sabots and stayed with 100 grains of 777 pellets.
Shot two deer yesterday afternoon, one at the top of the shoulder @ 85 yards, dropped i it's tracks. The second was right at dark as I was walking back to the truck, 90 yards quartering away. Both shots passed completely through- the quartering away shot took out both lungs and left a very ample blood trail.
I'm sold on them- if you're not having pass througs with the powerbelts and want something accurate that penetrates better (I like pass throughs mainly for the better blood trail, especially ni the evening), try the Shockwaves.
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#479776 - 11/04/07 01:51 PM
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Never have like them I ran out and bought them when they stormed on the scene. I was mistaken. The performance of the bullet was subpar. Would not hold a grouping wortha plug nickle.
Love the shochwave though.
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#480422 - 11/04/07 11:23 PM
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I wouldn't hunt with a bullet that didn't ALWAYS completely penetrate without fragmenting on broadside shots. Such a bullet might be reliable enough on picture perfect broadside shots, but I want a bullet that will do the job from any angle that doesn't require breaking the pelvis. I see no good reason to give up opportunities.
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#480661 - 11/05/07 08:48 AM
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#480723 - 11/05/07 09:49 AM
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That's what going in my 45 Encore this year. 223 platinums and 3 777 pellets.
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#481265 - 11/05/07 05:09 PM
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I've not heard anyone say anything good at all about powerbelts.
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#481586 - 11/05/07 07:44 PM
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we have eaten every deer my son has shot with a powerbelt so i have no complaint. i have always shot the XTP's.
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#481591 - 11/05/07 07:47 PM
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I haven't had a problem with them. I shot 1 deer last year and she left a great blood trail and only ran 25 yards.
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#492793 - 11/14/07 06:12 AM
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The powerbelts have always bothered me a little and continue to pose a conundrum for me. I have been shooting the 295 gr hollowpoints for a number of years and the groups I can get out of them are amazing.
I have killed probably around 10 deer with them and have only had pass thru one time. This used to really bug me (and still does some) but I stuck with them b/c of the confidence their accuracy gave me. As I thought about it more, I started to realize that I was complaining (if only to myself) about a bullet that had done nothing other than provide 100% success every time I have asked it to perform.
I think it is important to understand the powerbelts limitations and not try to break down a shoulder or attempt a texas heart shot, but beyond that I have no problem recommending them.
A-Bomb,
Have you tried the heavier Powerbelts? I get nearly the same accuracy with the 348 and 405 grn Powerbelts as I did the 295 grn ones, and I get full pass-throughs and good blood trails with the heavier bullets.
No blood trail is fine if the deer drops within sight. But wait until a deer runs into a jungle at night and no blood trail will quickly become a problem.
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#493721 - 11/14/07 06:32 PM
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I shot a buck this year with 300gr. platinum pb. I had a complete Pass thru and once it started bleeding it was a good blood trail. UPSMAN found him and he said it was spraying blood all over the trees about 4 feet high, he can explain and clarify if he reads it. I will use them to see the results on another deer before I decide. So far so good.
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#494095 - 11/14/07 09:10 PM
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the complete verdict is still not in for me. while i have taken many deer with them i have the same concerns and results some of the guys on here have had. The one main staying reason is that i love the way they load. I am a firm believer that one shouldnt have to push with all of their might to get a bullet down a barrel as some go. But having said that i want a bullet that gets the job done consistently. I have not found that yeat with any bullet but still hang on to the pb's because of the aforementioned reasons. One impt thing i have come to learn is that for max accuracy in my winchester apex is that i need to swab between shots to get the most consistent accuracy or risk missing or badly wounding another deer on the second shot. I will never shoot at another deer before swabbing first!!....no matter what.
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#495025 - 11/15/07 03:42 PM
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Was shooting Powerbelts and never had a problem. Talked to Smotherman from Knight and he said they had to much blow by because of their smaller diameter and that you could not get the same velocity. They killed every deer I ever shot at. Ayhow I heeded the warning and grabed Hornady 225(I think)xtp? I am shooting a 45 cali knight disc elite. Anyhow hit 120lb buck in the shoulder and took out both shoulder with a pass thru shooting 110gr shockey pellets. Complete pass thru and deer just shook as he hitt he ground. Not bad as far as I am concerned. May go back to belts. Hornadys load just as easy though. My 2 cents.
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#495814 - 11/16/07 06:35 AM
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Interesting Big J.
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#495978 - 11/16/07 08:47 AM
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I SWITCHED TO HORNADY 3 YEARS AGO AND WILL NEVER GO BACK TO ANYTHING ELSE. ESPPESUALLY POWERBELTS. I NEVER HAD GOOD LUCK WITH THEM. I GAVE ALL MY OTHER BULLETS AWAY, AND HAD PACKS THAT WERE NEVER OPENED
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#496002 - 11/16/07 09:02 AM
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BSK,
I have not tried the heavier ones and I absolutely agree with what you are saying regarding blood trails pass thru. I am very much a pro pass thru kinda guy. I worried alot about this issue with the powerbelts over the years. My issue was the good accuracy vs the lack of pass thru. If I am doing my part I can actually get 1" groups with the 295 gr PBs. When the heavier PBs came out I considered switching, but wondered if I was overreacting about the passthru as I have always easily recovered every deer I have shot with them.
It is interesting to hear that you have had similar accuracy from the 295s as well as the larger bullets. I am not an accuracy nut, I just like the confidence it gives me in the field. If I can get minute of deer out of the 348gr or 405gr PBs and get pass thru then I agree it would be a superior solution. I will give them a try .
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#501067 - 11/20/07 06:13 PM
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I've used 295 aerotips for years with excellent results until this past Sunday in Illinois. I shot a large bodied buck in the shoulder and the bullet exploded on impact. It was a 60 yard shot with 100 gr 777. I took up the blood trail 30 minuted later and it appeared as a leg shot with all the small drips and clotting. It was actually a very good blood trail though. I slowly stalked my way down the trail until I found where he stopped. As I stood there trying to figure out which way he went, I heard a clicking noise. Standing there investigating, I realized he was bedded in honeysuckle 25 yards away facing the other direction. It blew my mind! After about 5 minutes I was able to sneak myself into position for a dispatch shot at 10 yards! It was behind the shoulder and was a complete pass through. I'm still a little on the fence on whether I should continue to use them because they've worked so well every other time. That was first shot with my new TC Triumph though.
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#501243 - 11/20/07 07:55 PM
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hunter drew
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I want use them again....I shoot 100 grains of powder and 145 ( I THINK THAT IS THE SIZE WITH OUT LOOKING)grain bullet and not get a pass thur at 38 yards and the other was at 93 yards and no pass thur
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#502836 - 11/21/07 08:15 PM
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Registered: 11/14/06
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POWER BELTS ARE EASY TO LOAD AND THAT IS ABOUT IT. GO TO 777 AND T/C OR HORNADAYS? and you will be happy.
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#541543 - 12/27/07 12:04 AM
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bohun10g
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Registered: 12/13/07
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Loc: Sparta,TN
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I know that the knight and encore that I have didn't like the powerbelts.
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#541901 - 12/27/07 11:55 AM
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iowavf
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Registered: 10/25/05
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Shot a buck the other morning with 223 platinum at about 95 yards. Hit him behind the front shoulder and the bullet was lodged in the skin on the other side. Deer went anout 15 yards and piled into a tree. Good blood and the bullet stayed in one piece and is about the size of a nickel. The heart and lung looked like ground meat. I don't have any reasons to switch yet.
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#543320 - 12/28/07 06:55 PM
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Mike Belt
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Registered: 03/26/99
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I used the 295 gr. PB's since they came out. I've killed every deer I've shot at and haven't had a single pass-through. I figured I didn't need one as long as the deer were either dropping on the spot or never traveling over 50 yards. However, the poterntial was there to lose one with no blood trail so I switched to the heavier 338's and I've had nothing but pass-throughs on the deer I've taken since changing.
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#551717 - 01/06/08 11:57 AM
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iowavf
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Shot another buck @ 75 yards with the 223 platinum, complete pass through, didn't need blood trail because the deer was laying where I shot him. He didn't even kick or move around, just straight down to the ground. Exit hole was about 1 1/2" round.
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