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#454404 - 10/17/07 07:59 PM when bucks go missing..
deerchaser007
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For those of you that get quality whitetails magazine,.. this is a must read. One of the most informative articles i've ever read on mature buck movement from late summer til winter.

Also,.. check out page 49. Were is the bucks ear.....??
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#454497 - 10/17/07 08:21 PM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: deerchaser007]
Chris Tripp
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yes it was a great read! My only wish is that they did a study in a region like ours and published the findings.... still very informative on northern deer.
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#454610 - 10/17/07 08:45 PM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: Chris Tripp]
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gonna have to go and get that.
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#454742 - 10/17/07 09:25 PM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: ghosthunter]
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Those are some of the researchers I've been working with on my "seasonal shifts" theories.
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#455042 - 10/17/07 11:04 PM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: BSK]
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great stuff. I see alot of seasonal shift on one of our leases.
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#455114 - 10/18/07 05:07 AM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: smstone22]
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I can't wait to see the final data from the Auburn GPS-collar study. They are specifically looking at the rut ranges of older bucks from one year to the next. Last number I heard was the average amount of overlap between rut ranges for a single buck from one year to the next is only around 30%, meaning individual bucks don't have much fidelity to the same rutting areas from year to year.
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#455376 - 10/18/07 09:23 AM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: BSK]
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That seems like a good thing to me. We have years where we have more large deer sightings than others. If I thought we were stuck with the same set of smaller bucks year to year, it wouldn't be very exciting.

However, I can think of one thing. If these bucks move from one year to the next, does it really make sense not to harvest a deer because of the size of its antlers? It seems like if you let it go in hopes of seeing it next year, you are possibly wasting your time.

Of course, you did say these were "rut ranges" so I guess it doesn't apply necessarily to deer during non-rut times of the hunting season.
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#455433 - 10/18/07 09:57 AM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: DeerSlayer]
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DeerSlayer,

Some of these studies do bring into question some aspects of small-land management. And I hate to say it, but my research backs that up. Of the harvestable, manageable bucks on your property during the entire hunting season, a large percentage may not be year-round residents of your property. In fact, during the peak of the rut, it isn't uncommon for more than half of the bucks that are harvestable bucks on the property to not be "residents."

But then the hunter will never really know. Maybe the buck is a resident and maybe he isn't, and passing him may provide you no direct future benefit and maybe it will. I simply prefer to do what I always do and error on the side of caution. Besides, if I don't want to kill that buck, why would I care if he is a resident or not? I simply don't want to kill him.

But I do believe the concept of "letting him walk so you can kill him next year" is questionable. Sometimes it will work. Many times it will not. But as more and more people pass young bucks, everybody in the area benefits.
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#455538 - 10/18/07 10:59 AM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: BSK]
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So I dont have a good chance of seeing the big 9 i tried to kill last year during November and early december, dang lol I bet hes a 150 now.
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#455561 - 10/18/07 11:12 AM Re: when bucks go missing.. [Re: smstone22]
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BSK, I understand that bucks can be very unpredictable. But I have also read of hunters killing a big buck that they have hunted, 2 or 3 seasons in a row, in the same area. I still believe some mature bucks like to spend most of their life in a relatively small area if they feel secure.
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