yea i just hate when they die quick & leave no blood trail \:D i havent lost 1 yet shooting them from 245g-295g & most were shot with a 295,i may not find a 1 this year if i ever get a shot ;),hope everybody gets there rifle shooting good with whatever they have confidence in because if you have no faith in your choice you aint never going to be happy,mike243
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