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#439473 - 10/09/07 10:51 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Buckblaster]
Tiny
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Just a couple of thoughts

1-Combo Rifle/Shotgun/ML from H&R or Rossi.

2- If your considering a Remington youth rifle look for/at the 700 SPS Youth model. Don't know if they were on sale at the time or not but the nearby BPS had them for a good bit less than the Model 7
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#440022 - 10/10/07 10:54 AM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Tiny]
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Just for some of the people who dont like .243 for deer and say they dont have enough knockdown power. MY dad years ago bought a ruger M77 6mm to replace his marlin 336c .35 rem . He has hunted with that gun for a LONG time and has probably killed 150 deer with it. He can remember losing 3 with marginal shots. 1 of those was hit in the guts, the other he shot running and hit it in the back shoulder.

3 out of 150 aint bad if you think about it.

6mm and .243 are basically the same thing except the 6mm is a bit hotter in the ballistics department than the .243



If you ask me it is better to use smaller calibers and practice good marksmenship than use some cannon of a gun and have the idea "well, I hit it terrible but it made a big enough hole so I blowed his guts out, we can track him" thats crazy

Especially when getting a child there first gun. You want to teach them good marksmenship and ethics. You dont him want to develop a flinching habit that is hard to get rid of.
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#440035 - 10/10/07 11:03 AM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Buckblaster]
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A while back I took a big buck that I had shot to the taxidermist. I was 10. The taxidermist said, what did you shoot him with? My dad told him a .243 and he wondered if we shot all of our deer in the head. My dad then told him he had been hunting with a 6mm for years. He was astonished that we hunted ith such 'light' rifles. I had seen about 10 deer he shot and all of them were gut shot. He referred to a gutshot as behind the shoulder. Guessed what calber rifle he shot? You guessed it, a .300 weatherby mag. Not hatin on you rum shooters though.

Edited by Bassfishing Deerblaster (10/10/07 11:04 AM)
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#440069 - 10/10/07 11:31 AM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Buckblaster]
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I started on a Marlin 30-30. I still have it. My kids will not cut thier teeth on a Lever action because they are way too dangerous for a kid. When you work the action, it cocks it with no safety. Mine will use a bolt action 7mm-08.
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#440240 - 10/10/07 01:18 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
I started my son out with a Remington Model 7 youth rifle chambered in the .260.
He is a rather large kid for his age, but yet his arms are short so the fit of that rifle was dang near perfect.
I agree fit of the rifle is critical.......

.....Fit of the rifle to the child and a good amount of range time before hunting will result in lots of good results no matter the caliber.


Excellent post based on actual experience. Thanks Ruger
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#440625 - 10/10/07 04:52 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Hillbilly Hunter
I started on a Marlin 30-30. I still have it. My kids will not cut thier teeth on a Lever action because they are way too dangerous for a kid. When you work the action, it cocks it with no safety. Mine will use a bolt action 7mm-08.


Marlin fixed that
Start em out with open sights
then move on to scope, let the shooter decide on the caliber after shooting different calibers


Edited by skynimrod (10/10/07 04:53 PM)
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#447630 - 10/14/07 05:12 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Buckblaster]
deerslayeror2
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rossi has 22 cal 20 gag and 243 cal in one
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#452062 - 10/16/07 06:33 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Buckblaster]
solodren
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you can choose something that wont outgrow him soon. I have a 270 and wanted to see if my 9 year old would like hunting picked up some managed recoil from remington 243 has around 10ft lbs of kick the 270 has 21 and the managed recoil has 9ft lbs didnt even have to adjust scope he shot with no complaints if youre thinkig longterm this is the way to go!!!
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#452741 - 10/16/07 11:38 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: 7mm08]
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My vote is for a .243 M700 Remington. I used one of these from age 12 - 20, and I lost fewer deer with that caliber during those years than I have when I started using my .270 (I'm 23 now). That being said I'll never shoot another core lokt bullet. The .243 has very little recoil, and its accuracy inspires confidence. Mine took deer all the way out to 200 yards.
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#452757 - 10/16/07 11:55 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: infoman jr.]
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Handi Rifle .243 or 7mm-08
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