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#449413 - 10/15/07 03:40 PM Old points system was better ... opions...?
doublelung
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The old system was heckuva lot better. Right now 24 would be long gone with it and have his 7th title wrapped up. He has been shorted on 2 other titles since the points changed. The new system is terrible.

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#449432 - 10/15/07 03:46 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: doublelung]
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I think the new system is perhaps better for those very reasons. Running away with the title kind of deflates the confidence of everyone else, and then the Chase becomes rather boring. Not saying that this Chase is all that riveting, but face it, with the old system, only the die-hard fans would be watching past August.
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#449497 - 10/15/07 04:35 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: redneckprofessor]
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I don't like how you race all year to get in and if you just have one bad thing happen such as blow a motor or flat tire it can put you out of it.
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#449872 - 10/15/07 07:16 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: TheAirMan]
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i like the old system better,stuff happens but its like starting the year over again & if your not consistant for the last 10 races even though you have been for the last 25 tuff.why not break it down further-5 best then 3 best then down to the last 1,keep leveling the playing field til who you want to win wins,mike243
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#450594 - 10/15/07 10:13 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: mike243]
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I love the Chase format. It has added a ton of interest to the end of the season. Before the Chase was implemented, I usually lost interest in NASCAR a couple weeks after Labor Day. Not anymore.

All other sports (except big time college football) have a playoff. No reason NASCAR shouldn't.
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#450771 - 10/16/07 03:18 AM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: farmin68]
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well if you are going to make 10 the only ones that can win,send the other drivers home & just let the 10 play,no need for the other drivers to mess up the ones in the chase,game over go home till next year,top 10 finishers go on then the top 5 ect...why not make it like the race of champions ?oh wait C.O.T. are the only cars allowed next year,mike243
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#451067 - 10/16/07 08:58 AM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: mike243]
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This point system results in a 10 race season for 12/13 drivers. Liked it the old way better.
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#451094 - 10/16/07 09:28 AM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: rvs9]
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I still think they need more points awarded for the winner and a bigger discrepency for a top 10 finish.
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#451193 - 10/16/07 10:16 AM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: NICHOLS3]
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I agree with NICHOLS3
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#451449 - 10/16/07 12:19 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: Spike]
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JR would have never won under the old points system. Thats why I believe it changed. I really really wonder what SR would have thought about the new chase format?
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#451661 - 10/16/07 02:10 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: NCST8GUY]
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old system better IMO!!
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#452049 - 10/16/07 06:23 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: rvs9]
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 Originally Posted By: rvs9
This point system results in a 10 race season for 12/13 drivers.


There is a little more to it than that. The non-chasers are still winning races and money as well as trying to finish in the top 35. Also, the driver that finishes 13th gets a very nice bonus.

Want to talk about stupid rules? The top 35 points rule for qualifying is the stupidest rule in sports. I wish NASCAR would at least drop it to a top 15 or top 20 rule.
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#452132 - 10/16/07 07:18 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: NICHOLS3]
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 Originally Posted By: NICHOLS3
I still think they need more points awarded for the winner and a bigger discrepency for a top 10 finish.



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#453924 - 10/17/07 03:54 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: ]
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I liked the old way a lot better as well.
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#457008 - 10/18/07 09:57 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: ]
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Definitely trying to keep Gordon from getting 7!! If they hadn't changed the system when they did he would have #7 wrapped up this year!
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#461668 - 10/22/07 07:23 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: ]
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They should have kept the old system,but added 50 points for a win.Get rid of bonus points for leading a lap and leading the most laps.I've always thought that it's retarded that 2nd can get the same points as the winner.AND GET RID OF THE TOP-35 NONSENSE!Drive your way into the race,like they do in NHRA.
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#463678 - 10/23/07 08:24 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: JohninKnoxville]
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 Originally Posted By: JohninKnoxville
AND GET RID OF THE TOP-35 NONSENSE!Drive your way into the race,like they do in NHRA.


Amen! Waltrip was 18th fastest at Dega in the spring and didn't make the race on speed. That's ridiculous!

With more parity coming with the COT, the top 35 is going WAY too deep in the field.

I think there will be some changes, but how much pride can NASCAR swallow? I doubt they will back it up any further than the top 25. Also, the entire group of cars that aren't locked in should go out first. That way if qualifying is rained out, a better decision on who makes the field can be made.
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#472439 - 10/29/07 10:36 AM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Foggy54
They'll keep tweeking it till they find a way to get JR a chapionship while Keeping Gordon from passing Sr.s 7 championships.

Now that juniors with hendrix he will be expected to perform he'll have the cars but will he have the talent!


You guys are so freakin' funny. NASCAR loves Gordon. What earthly reason would they have to keep him from getting 7? So he won't pass Earnhardt? Give me a break...you guys are too much.

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#485420 - 11/08/07 12:30 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: Bobcat]
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It is reality. Go back and look at the system since they started the "chase" crap. If you do the math on the races at where they were at the 10 race cutoff and look at where Gordon ran the remaining races he would already have #7 locked up this year. The system is terrible and really needs to be gutted and reworked. Better yet, throw it out and go back to the OLD SCHOOL.

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#485711 - 11/08/07 04:23 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: doublelung]
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The old system was far more rewarding to the drivers and crews who had their stuff together through out the season. I'm not a big fan of the present point system or the 35 rule either.
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#486028 - 11/08/07 07:59 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: iowavf]
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It seems like the drivers are very careful the first part of the year just to be sure they get locked in. There's really not any real racing action going on during that part.
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#496874 - 11/17/07 10:33 AM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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Ditto! go back to old points system.
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#498603 - 11/19/07 07:10 AM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: iowavf]
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 Originally Posted By: iowavf
The old system was far more rewarding to the drivers and crews who had their stuff together through out the season. I'm not a big fan of the present point system or the 35 rule either.


Same here .
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#551349 - 01/05/08 10:05 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: Radar]
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NASCAR STICKS. The reason for the chase was not to influence who won. It was an attempt to beat the NFL in tv ratings. They FAILED!!! For the past few years their ratings and race attendance have been dropping. If you paid close attention, there were several races this past year with tons of empty seat in the stands. The sad part is that the best auto racing sport (IMO), the NHRA jumped on board with there own countdown points system.
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#551391 - 01/05/08 10:46 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: NICHOLS3]
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 Originally Posted By: NICHOLS3
I still think they need more points awarded for the winner and a bigger discrepency for a top 10 finish.



Agree with ya!
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#552509 - 01/06/08 10:44 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: NCST8GUY]
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I have 2 opinions about the "chase". 1. Who's to say that in the last 10 races everyone in the chase will have DNF's and the other guys do all the leading and winning ? That would bring them to the top of the points but they would not be eligable for the championship. 2. Why not start all the "chase" drivers with 0 points. Let them fight it out for the last 10 races
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#581550 - 01/25/08 03:01 PM Re: Old points system was better ... opions...? [Re: GypsyByChoice]
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I think NASCAR needs to go back to awarding consistency throughout the season , not the last 10 races for the chase .
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