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#444093 - 10/12/07 12:09 PM TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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I've been chatting with another hunter on a Georgia hunting forum and he is adamately opposed to using Triple 7 in any form because he says it leaves a crud ring at the forward end of the breech plug which prevents proper seating of the projectile. He says use Pyrodex only. Anyone disagree with this opinion??
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#444105 - 10/12/07 12:15 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: FOOTER]
big jim
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Winchester developed a 209 (called 777) primer especially designed to eliminate the ring you described. I have tried them and they work.
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#444132 - 10/12/07 12:35 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: big jim]
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That's what I thought, but the guy in Georgia says that doesn't help. Would you recommend the powder (FFG or FFFG) or the pellets?
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#444141 - 10/12/07 12:44 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: FOOTER]
Trapper John
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I shot the 777 loose powder a week or so ago at the range and used the new 777 primers.

No crud ring.

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#444150 - 10/12/07 12:53 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: Trapper John]
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 Originally Posted By: Trapper John
I shot the 777 loose powder a week or so ago at the range and used the new 777 primers.

No crud ring.
What load and grain (FFG or FFFG) and bullet do you shoot and do you like the powder over the pellet??

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#444191 - 10/12/07 01:35 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: FOOTER]
Trapper John
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Pellets suck, in my opinion. Too much chance for a messed up ignition or cracked pellets. The crud ring is also more likely to occur with the use of pellets. I only shoot loose.

I shoot 80 grains of loose FFG Triple Seven and a 300 grain Hornady XTP.


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#444206 - 10/12/07 01:45 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: Trapper John]
FOOTER
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Would either FFG or FFFG 777 powder burn cleaner than the other??
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#444225 - 10/12/07 01:56 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: FOOTER]
CHRIS WILSON
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Out of three different mz's I've owned, only one had a problem with the "crud ring". The other two have never showed any signs of it. Currently shooting 110 gr. of FFF triple seven with a 250 gr. barnes expender.
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#444243 - 10/12/07 02:06 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: CHRIS WILSON]
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The most I have ever shot my muzzleloader on one hunt was 7 times.
(Never use 777 pellets with number 11 caps)
I always clean my muzzleloader after shooting it on a hunt and I have never really noticed any kind of "crud ring" but that don't mean it isn't there.
I personally prefer 777 pellets. Just alot easier than powder, cleaner than pyrodex and my gun seems to like them.
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#444376 - 10/12/07 03:27 PM Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX?? [Re: RUGER]
iowavf
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I use 3 777 pellets and the only differance I see between 777 and pyrodex is the gun is a lot easier to clean. I've tried the powder and pellets, but also like the pellets better.
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