#444093 - 10/12/07 12:09 PM
TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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I've been chatting with another hunter on a Georgia hunting forum and he is adamately opposed to using Triple 7 in any form because he says it leaves a crud ring at the forward end of the breech plug which prevents proper seating of the projectile. He says use Pyrodex only. Anyone disagree with this opinion??
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#444105 - 10/12/07 12:15 PM
Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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big jim
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Winchester developed a 209 (called 777) primer especially designed to eliminate the ring you described. I have tried them and they work.
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#444132 - 10/12/07 12:35 PM
Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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That's what I thought, but the guy in Georgia says that doesn't help. Would you recommend the powder (FFG or FFFG) or the pellets?
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#444141 - 10/12/07 12:44 PM
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Trapper John
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I shot the 777 loose powder a week or so ago at the range and used the new 777 primers.
No crud ring.
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#444150 - 10/12/07 12:53 PM
Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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FOOTER
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I shot the 777 loose powder a week or so ago at the range and used the new 777 primers.
No crud ring.
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#444191 - 10/12/07 01:35 PM
Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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Trapper John
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Pellets suck, in my opinion. Too much chance for a messed up ignition or cracked pellets. The crud ring is also more likely to occur with the use of pellets. I only shoot loose.
I shoot 80 grains of loose FFG Triple Seven and a 300 grain Hornady XTP.
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#444206 - 10/12/07 01:45 PM
Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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Would either FFG or FFFG 777 powder burn cleaner than the other??
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#444225 - 10/12/07 01:56 PM
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CHRIS WILSON
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Out of three different mz's I've owned, only one had a problem with the "crud ring". The other two have never showed any signs of it. Currently shooting 110 gr. of FFF triple seven with a 250 gr. barnes expender.
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#444243 - 10/12/07 02:06 PM
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The most I have ever shot my muzzleloader on one hunt was 7 times.
(Never use 777 pellets with number 11 caps)
I always clean my muzzleloader after shooting it on a hunt and I have never really noticed any kind of "crud ring" but that don't mean it isn't there.
I personally prefer 777 pellets. Just alot easier than powder, cleaner than pyrodex and my gun seems to like them.
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#444376 - 10/12/07 03:27 PM
Re: TRIPLE 7 OR PYRODEX??
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iowavf
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I use 3 777 pellets and the only differance I see between 777 and pyrodex is the gun is a lot easier to clean. I've tried the powder and pellets, but also like the pellets better.
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