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#437360 - 10/08/07 10:48 PM Youngun First Rifle Help?
gil1
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My nephew is 11, has gotten his Hunter's Ed. Certification, and is dying to hunt. I've taken him with me hunting a few times, and we've shot his pellet gun a bunch. It's time to step up and start practicing with a deer rifle.

There are so many other things vying for his time. I need something reliable but inexpensive because I have no idea if soccer, girls, video games or whatever will win the battle. His father, my brother, doesn't hunt, and I only get a few windows every year to feed his hunting fire. Unfortunatley, I can't break the bank on this one.

His 12th birthday is November 4th, and I'm stepping up to the plate by buying him his first deer rifle. I didn't start hunting until my late 20s (with a 30.06), so I don't have the knowledge to buy something. I need someone to hold my hand with caliber, model, scope, heck everything. Please help a young would-be hunter out with suggestions. Thanks so much.
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#437367 - 10/08/07 10:52 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: gil1]
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.243 in a h and r
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#437373 - 10/08/07 10:56 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
Tnyoteboy
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243 would not be a bad place to start, or a 30/30. H&R makes a good product and can be sent back for additional barrels.
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#437388 - 10/08/07 11:23 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Tnyoteboy]
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gil,

I've got 3 kids who will be up and coming hunters, and I've thought about this extensively. I personally started with a .243 at age 11. I wasn't very good a tracking deer, and the first few deer I shot with that .243 did require tracking jobs.

I like the concept of putting a little large hole in the deer, and I also like the concept of having a rifle that a kid can grow up with and continue using throughout his/ her lifetime if they so choose.

That being said, I decided on a 7-08 to start my kids out with. Granted, I'll be handloading very mild loads with 120 grainers only going around 2200 fps, so recoil should be negligible. Even if you don't handload, an 11 yr old should be able to handle the recoil of standard loads in the 7-08.

I'd lean towards a lightly used savage, of course you'll probably need to replace the stock for a youth model unless he's a really big kid. You should be able to find one for around $250-350.

For a scope, I'd lean towards one of the burris fullfield II's. Again, I'd pick one up lightly used, should be around $135-150.

That's a combo he'll be able to use forever, and if he doesn't want it, you could resell for what you have into it.

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#437401 - 10/08/07 11:37 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: megalomaniac]
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I've got 3 boys all started with a .308,in hind sight if I had it to do all over again they would have been toting a 7mm-08. You can buy over the counter loads from 120 gr all the way up to 175's and recoil is next to nothing.

This will get me in trouble. I think the 243 is a great round for kids that get alot of range time and can place their shots well.
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#437405 - 10/08/07 11:40 PM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: megalomaniac]
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The 243 is an excellent deer caliber. Very light recoil and fun to shoot. I'd look into a Browning A-bolt Micro and for a scope a Leupold VX-I 3-9x40 with Talley mounts. The 95 grain Fusion is perfect for deer.
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#437572 - 10/09/07 07:27 AM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: Model70Man]
vonb
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I would go with something like a Stevens 200 in either a .243 or 7mm-08. You should be able to find this gun for around $260-$300. I would then put something like a Nikon Buckmasters or Bushnell scope on it. It's an accurate little gun and it won't break the bank.

If your nephew decides not to take up hunting, you can usually get rid of this gun fairly easily as many competition shooters use them for their action and usually re-barrel them themselves.

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#437613 - 10/09/07 07:54 AM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: vonb]
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I would split the difference and get a 260 if you handload. If you dont handload go with the .243 or 7mm-08. 257 Roberts, 250 Savage, or 6.5x55 are all easy on the shoulder as well.
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#437898 - 10/09/07 10:32 AM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: gil1]
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This question is asked multiple times on multiple forums every year. Usually overlooked in the ensuing discussion about calibers is the fact that the FIT of the firearm to a young and/or small-statured shooter is at least as important as the caliber. If the shooter cannot hold the rifle comfortably and properly, he/she will be inaccurate and will likely be punished far worse by whatever recoil is present than would be the case with a properly fitting rifle.
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#438009 - 10/09/07 11:31 AM Re: Youngun First Rifle Help? [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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 Originally Posted By: big 8's in Weakley county
.243 in a h and r



Ditto. I started out with a youth model h&r handi rifle .243


killed a bunch and big deer with it.


Edited by Bassfishing Deerblaster (10/09/07 11:31 AM)
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