I haven't seen any persimmons on our place either. If you have a persimmon tree in a field, you can let a small area around the tree grow up. We did this at home and now we have about a dozen in one spot. The coons and possums will do the work fertilizing right off the branch. When your young trees come up in a few years go back in and thin out the trees that are not persimmons. I believe it takes about 7-8 years for a persimmon to start producing fruit.