#400132 - 09/16/07 07:44 AM
Re: persimmons
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Stalker,
Just remember that persimmons germinate best when the seeds have been "scarified" (have the outer coating of the seed removed). Nature does this by passing them through the digestive systems of animals. The acids in the digestive system burn away the outer coating of the seed. I know it sounds gross, but you will have better germination if you collect the persimmon seeds out of coyote or raccoon poop.
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#400141 - 09/16/07 07:54 AM
Re: persimmons
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No persimmons or acorns at all on our place that over the years held big oaks/acorns here in east TN as well. It's all from the big spring frost we had for 3 days. This is why we ask and were allowed to do food plots by the landowner in hopes of off setting the loss of the mast.
I heard the only acorns will be over 2000ft this year. Ones that had not popped out before the frost hit?
Edited by 7mm08 (09/16/07 07:56 AM)
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#400689 - 09/16/07 04:21 PM
Re: persimmons
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No persimmons, no white oak acorns, and almost no red oak acorns on my place.
Ditto
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#400692 - 09/16/07 04:25 PM
Re: persimmons
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Stalker,
Just remember that persimmons germinate best when the seeds have been "scarified" (have the outer coating of the seed removed). Nature does this by passing them through the digestive systems of animals. The acids in the digestive system burn away the outer coating of the seed. I know it sounds gross, but you will have better germination if you collect the persimmon seeds out of coyote or raccoon poop.
now there's some good info
I have several white oak acorns falling but for some reason very few persimmons, I just figured they were killed out in the late frost but couldn't figure why my white oaks were not affected.
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#400697 - 09/16/07 04:28 PM
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No persimmons, no white oak acorns, and almost no red oak acorns on my place. Ditto
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#400751 - 09/16/07 05:16 PM
Re: persimmons
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I found one persimmon tree holding fruit on our farm in Decatur.
One.
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#400896 - 09/16/07 07:33 PM
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Carlos Viagra
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I have seen a few here in Cumberland county with fruit on them. I eat a few every now and then. Sure does taste terrible if you eat one that's not ripe yet.
Our oak trees have plenty of mast on them from what I've seen.
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#400959 - 09/16/07 08:02 PM
Re: persimmons
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Being up there (higher elevation) say from Knoxpatch, I guess your oaks had not bloomed before the big frost, therefore, you got them as usual. We in the valley are going to be hurting for mast this fall and winter. As soon as the season is OVER I have plans to keep feeding deer and turkeys until spring.
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#401120 - 09/16/07 08:48 PM
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It was awful close and I think some of them had bloomed but not all.
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