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#390572 - 09/10/07 07:45 PM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: TiminTN]
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It's $75 over your max but worth it.
http://cameralandny1.reachlocal.net/optics/zeiss.pl?page=521460
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#390660 - 09/10/07 08:52 PM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: gil1]
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Zeiss Conquest

All of my rifles wear Zeiss optics. I made a mistake a couple years back and looked through one. \:\) The only other scopes that even comes close IMO are Swarovski and Meopta. For the money, the Conquest is hard to beat. This guy elkhunter777 sells alot of scopes with no reserve and the Conquest normally sells for $335-$370. I've bought numerous scopes from this person and have never had a problem.

Have you tried shooting at longer ranges with your current setup? If it's not broken.... you know the rest.
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#390669 - 09/10/07 08:58 PM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: UPSman]
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$200 to $300, 30.06 and 200 yards shots. Has Leupold 6x42 written all over it.

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#390790 - 09/10/07 10:06 PM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: ]
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As PMC previously stated, its all about the exit pupil.

A 40mm can be used on 5.5x right at dusk and still be able to transmit the maximum amount of light the human eye can use.

A 50mm can be used on 7x right at dusk and still transmit max light usable by the human eye.

In my opinion, not a lot of difference, but there is a very small, sometimes noticable difference.

My opinion for very low light...

Get yourself a pair of very, very high quality binoculars (ie zeiss 8x56's or the like... doesn't really matter, as long as the exit pupil on the binocs is 7mm), to use to spot and judge the game. Then it just don't mean squat whether there's a 40mm or 50mm objective on your scope. (And it won't mean squat if you buy a cheap scope, either, just as long as it tracks true and holds zero)

BTW, I second TiminTN's opinion of the Burris Fullfield II... you can pick these up used but in like new condition for $135 or so shipped.

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#390874 - 09/10/07 11:04 PM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: megalomaniac]
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I'll tell you what, if I were gil about now, my head would be spinning! Gil, there is probably not a bad bit of info in the whole thread. It's just that everyone likes their own idea of what is good. I suppose a good approach if you are an analytical type guy, is to make a list including each recommended scope, compare the specs and compare the price of each. Then close your eyes and put your finger on the list, and bingo, that's the scope that you buy. Seriously though, the list, specs and costs would probably help you make a decision that you can live with. Good Luck!!!
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#390956 - 09/10/07 11:46 PM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: gil1]
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Good advice above.


You can get into the same problem with 40 + OBJ, as that article mentioned with 50mm OBJ.Usally isn't a problem but on rare occasions have had to mount 42-44mm OBJ in High Rings.This depends on the scope length,obj bell shape and the barrel contour.Just mentioning that,it isn't a big issiue.

Personally I perfer OBJ between 36-44mm and perfer not to go above 44 so that I can mount them in Low - Med/ rings in most cases.The only 50mm I would even consider is the Leupold VX-L.

"From reading through the posts on here, I was looking at Nikon Prostaff, Simmons ATEC, Burris Fullfield 11, Bushnell 3200 Elite, Swift Premier, etc. My buddy had recommended the Nikon Buckmaster with the 50mm objective lens."

My advice look at all of them "Outside" if possible and go from there.

BTW-I have the Burris Fullfield 2 with Ballistic Plex,Nice scopes they are.However the Simmons "Master Series" line starting with the Pro Sport is brighter than it and a couple Bushnells I've looked through.

Good luck with whichever one your eyes tell you to go with.
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#391017 - 09/11/07 04:33 AM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: Tiny]
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I have a 3.5-10 x40 and x50 both made the same year Vari-x III`s,,the 50mm on a 300 Ultra and the 40mm on a 270WSM,,the 50mm is a little brighter right at dark,but your done past legal shooting time before you can tell a difference,I take it on morning hunts when shots can reach 500 yards at daybreak,the 40mm on the WSM is a good scope as the 50mm and is actually clearer to me edge to edge than the 50mm,and unless your going to be shooting before or after legal times I would get the 40mm,,but I would get the Ziess,,in the woods in the shadows trying to poke a bullet through some brush at 150 yards you can see stuff with it you cant with the Leupold

3-9x40 Conquest,,best 400$ huntin investment you will ever make.
the one rifle I carry the most is a Model 7SS 308 with the Conquest zeroed at 250 with 150 Hornady bullets,,I killed 2 does with 2 shots last year with it at 415 yards.

and no deer scope should have an AO lens,,
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#391197 - 09/11/07 07:48 AM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: mr.big]
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I cant stand shooting a rifle that I have to lift my face off of the comb of the stock to see through the scope. That eliminates the 50mm objectives for me. The tradoff for the extra minutes at dark(if there really is that much of a difference, which I doubt) doesnt matter as much to me as a natural pointing rifle with a scope mounted as close to the axis of the bore as possible.
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#391329 - 09/11/07 08:39 AM Re: Riflescope Objective Lens Sizes [Re: Kimberman]
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Man, really great stuff, guys. I really appreciate your opinions. I think I'll go with the 40mm objective lens, but it looks like I've still got some shopping to do on which scope. So many differing opinions!
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