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#3764993 - 09/16/14 06:59 AM Obama wants to kill A/C
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The Obama administration is preparing to introduce major steps to phase out production of a popular chemical coolant used in refrigerators and air conditioners, citing growing evidence that the substance is contributing to the warming of the planet.

The White House will announce on Tuesday a series of voluntary commitments by some of the country’s largest chemical firms and retailers to move rapidly away from R-134a and similar compounds used in nearly every office, home and automobile in the country, according to current and former U.S. officials familiar with the effort.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/h...ry.html?hpid=z1
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#3765174 - 09/16/14 09:59 AM Re: Obama wants to kill A/C [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Will be very interesting to see how this plays out, curious if he will go after r410a as well, 410a has almost 50% higher GWP (global warming potential) than 134a.

Most of the larger HVAC systems are currently on 134a while the smaller stuff is mostly 410a. If it is worded anything like the Montreal protocol then it will be a cutoff date about 10-15 years from now with an additional 10 year service phase. The service phase still allows for the production of the refrigerant but no one could sell new equipment that uses it.

If you follow the money it also makes sense, the article mentions that this would be with the support of chemical companies. Currently 134a is about $3/lb while the most likely replacement, 1233ZD is around $20/lb.

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#3765734 - 09/16/14 07:42 PM Re: Obama wants to kill A/C [Re: Ed B]
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Silly Libs, Global Warming is FAKE.
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#3767564 - Today at 02:59 PM Re: Obama wants to kill A/C [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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