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#376886 - 09/01/07 11:09 PM Re: QDM success [Re: BSK]
hunter drew
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Cool thanks BSK
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#376900 - 09/01/07 11:15 PM Re: QDM success [Re: BSK]
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Here's another absolutely CRITICAL factor to success that no one ever talks about but is so important it needs to be mentioned repeatedly. Although this is going to sound condescending, the truth is, to have a successful QDM program, especially success harvesting the animals being produced, the hunters involved will have to seriously upgrading their hunting skills. Producing a balanced herd isn't that difficult, but harvesting the older bucks the program produces requires specific hunting tactics and skills. Basically, growing older bucks is easy. Killing them is not. The tactics that proved successful for regularly killing younger bucks will not cut it for regularly killing old bucks. Old bucks are so different than young bucks it's as if they're a completely different species.

To date, I've never seen a properly designed and implemented QDM program fail to acheive the biological goals. However, I have seen numerous QDM programs "fail" in their harvest goals. The hunters simply can't kill the older bucks being produced. Old bucks are really hard animals to see and kill, and doing so requires commitment to learning older buck patterns and then hunting them at the right time and with extreme adherence to scent control issues.
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#376936 - 09/01/07 11:27 PM Re: QDM success [Re: BSK]
hunter drew
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Thanks from what i have been able to tell while hunting older bucks they really don't let you know they are in the area like rubs but i do find their scrapes does that sound about right

Edited by hunter drew (09/01/07 11:28 PM)
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#377247 - 09/02/07 11:35 AM Re: QDM success [Re: hunter drew]
Chris Tripp
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 Originally Posted By: hunter drew
cool I like to read your post BSK on the QDM if you could give some tips what would they be


join QDMA... lots of good info in Quality Whitetails

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#377261 - 09/02/07 11:50 AM Re: QDM success [Re: Chris Tripp]
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 Originally Posted By: Chris Tripp
 Originally Posted By: hunter drew
cool I like to read your post BSK on the QDM if you could give some tips what would they be


join QDMA... lots of good info in Quality Whitetails


Quality Whitetails is the ONLY good source of scientifically based management information available. Most of th articles aren't written by "outdoor writers" (no offense Bowriter), but by the top deer scientists in the world.
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#377264 - 09/02/07 11:53 AM Re: QDM success [Re: hunter drew]
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 Originally Posted By: hunter drew
Thanks from what i have been able to tell while hunting older bucks they really don't let you know they are in the area like rubs but i do find their scrapes does that sound about right


When it comes to killing mature bucks, the most important pieces of advice I can give are:

1) Hunt near thick cover.

2) Hunt where no one else has been hunting.

3) Don't hunt the same stand locations over and over.

4) Play the wind, never hunt a stand when the wind is "wrong," and do all you can to reduce your scent.
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#377524 - 09/02/07 06:59 PM Re: QDM success [Re: BSK]
Chris Tripp
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: hunter drew
Thanks from what i have been able to tell while hunting older bucks they really don't let you know they are in the area like rubs but i do find their scrapes does that sound about right


When it comes to killing mature bucks, the most important pieces of advice I can give are:

1) Hunt near thick cover.

2) Hunt where no one else has been hunting.

3) Don't hunt the same stand locations over and over.

4) Play the wind, never hunt a stand when the wind is "wrong," and do all you can to reduce your scent.


ditto... excellent advice

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#377679 - 09/02/07 09:35 PM Re: QDM success [Re: Chris Tripp]
hunter drew
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Thanks guys very much
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