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#3744138 - 08/25/14 05:28 PM Generation schedule on the Caney ?
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From what I have seen / heard the generation schedules that tva puts out on the places you call can be right on or nowhere close.

Just curious how accurate they are for the Caney?

Wading in the river out of earshot of the sirens makes me a little nervous. \:D
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#3744140 - 08/25/14 05:29 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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#3744142 - 08/25/14 05:31 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: striperhunter90]
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It's that other 5% you have to watch out for. \:D
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#3744146 - 08/25/14 05:35 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: Kirk]
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Personally I have only seen it wrong one time in 10 years.
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#3744272 - 08/25/14 06:54 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: striperhunter90]
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Cool, thanks.

If nothing rips, tears or breaks I am going back this weekend. \:\)
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#3744278 - 08/25/14 06:56 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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Here it's right almost all the time. TVA doesn't get enough credit for the service they provide to get schedules even on Corp reservoirs.
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#3744510 - 08/25/14 09:08 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: Setterman]
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From my experience they are usually correct. If I'm downstream far enough to not hear the siren than the water doesn't come up so fast as I can't get out. One word of wisdom, when the water first starts coming up, the trout usually start really biting. It's tough to stop fishing and start walking out.
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#3744520 - 08/25/14 09:17 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: ADR]
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I watch it daily and it's almost always correct.
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#3744739 - 08/26/14 04:29 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: smstone22]
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For the Caney this weekend a safe bet will be a 2 hr pulse from 9-11am. You will not know for sure till the afternoon before the day you plan to go.
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#3744842 - 08/26/14 07:40 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: bigluresonly]
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I've never seen them wrong on generation schedule. One tip I can offer is if you're too far downstream to hear the siren, pay close attention to the time. Set an alarm on your phone if you need to. Be sure to be on the same side of the river that you put in after generation starts. Depending on where you are it can take a few hours for the rising water to reach you but if you want to hang around and fish after it starts, which you should, you don't want to have to cross the river and chance not being able to make it.
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#3744968 - 08/26/14 09:34 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: MidTennFisher]
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I might have to eventually look for a short shaft lower unit for the ol 35 so I can run more of the caney and other such small rivers. I will run up the caney from the mouth but won't make it to the first bridge. Scared of the water dropping and getting me stuck somewhere...

but for wading for trout I still haven't done that and I need to give it a try some time.
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#3744978 - 08/26/14 09:42 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
I might have to eventually look for a short shaft lower unit for the ol 35 so I can run more of the caney and other such small rivers. I will run up the caney from the mouth but won't make it to the first bridge. Scared of the water dropping and getting me stuck somewhere...

but for wading for trout I still haven't done that and I need to give it a try some time.
Quit goofing off and get a jet conversion for that thing already!

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#3745062 - 08/26/14 10:50 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: SES]
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 Originally Posted By: SES
 Originally Posted By: catman529
I might have to eventually look for a short shaft lower unit for the ol 35 so I can run more of the caney and other such small rivers. I will run up the caney from the mouth but won't make it to the first bridge. Scared of the water dropping and getting me stuck somewhere...

but for wading for trout I still haven't done that and I need to give it a try some time.
Quit goofing off and get a jet conversion for that thing already!
considering the money involved and the loss of HP I don't really want a jet.
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#3745161 - 08/26/14 12:30 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: catman529]
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Thanks everyone. \:D


catman,
You need to wade for trout, it is a blast.
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#3745171 - 08/26/14 12:40 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
Thanks everyone. \:D


catman,
You need to wade for trout, it is a blast.
Sorry Ruger, I forgot the question you first posted. I fish at least 3 times a week on rivers that have a posted generation schedule on the TVA Resevoir site. I can't remember the last time the generation schedule didn't run exactly as scheduled.

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#3745395 - 08/26/14 05:04 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: SES]
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Thanks again everyone.

My biggest reason for asking wasn't really for safety, which that did play a part of it, but more so, if I am gonna travel 3 1/2 hours one way and spend the money to get there, back and a room, I wanna be FAIRLY confident I can fish. \:D
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#3745462 - 08/26/14 06:43 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
Cool, thanks.

If nothing rips, tears or breaks I am going back this weekend. \:\)

Good luck to ya Ruger. We were thinking about it too, not sure yet.

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#3745515 - 08/26/14 08:01 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: preds1]
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I am about 99% sure we are going.
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#3745715 - 08/26/14 11:38 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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Like usual, I work all weekend. otherwise I might go out there and say hi and try and catch a couple trout of my own. Hope you wear em out
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#3745781 - 08/27/14 06:55 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: catman529]
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Ruger, the schedules are very accurate. But, as we have discussed on TNdeer before, it is aggravating that you can't get the predicted discharge/generation schedule for the Corps of Engineering lakes like you can for the TVA lakes. Maybe the COE just doesn't make it available, but for the TVA dams you can look a couple of days ahead and plan accordingly. Not so for the CoE dams. As someone pointed out, you don't know about the Center Hill/Caney river until after 4:00 p.m. (or so) for the next day. Makes planning a little more difficult.

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#3745847 - 08/27/14 08:17 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: TNCharlie]
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If the forecast doesn't change it is looking like I might get rained out. \:\(
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#3745921 - 08/27/14 09:32 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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I've fished many of the 60-80% chance of storm days recently and only had a few raindrops and sometimes had full sun. I usually will wake up anyway and check the radar, I can then get a better guess of whether I'll get wet in my particular location by looking at the animation to see which direction the storms are moving and if they're decreasing or increasing in size.

That has been much more reliable over the years than listening to their best guess percentage of whether we'll get rain.
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#3745922 - 08/27/14 09:33 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: MidTennFisher]
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And fish don't mind the rain, neither do I! I've fished in downpours without a care. Now lightning will make me paddle my yak faster than I ever thought possible and get the heck out of the water.
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#3745943 - 08/27/14 09:52 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: MidTennFisher]
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Get a float tube and float from the dam down to the island. Some great fishing and lots of honey holes. We always take two vehicles and park one at each place.
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#3746062 - 08/27/14 12:37 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: Unicam]
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That would be fun Uni.
My buddy actually has a very nice float tube he bought when he was going every weekend.
Think he paid like 300 bucks for that sucker.
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#3747753 - 08/29/14 07:57 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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Take note of the sluicing that they are doing with generation this time of the year. It makes the water rise a lot faster and with more force. I feel like I have a good feel for the Caney and have fished it many times even with two generators but I about lost all my gear, boat and maybe my life about this time last year.
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#3747896 - 08/29/14 10:21 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RF270]
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What is sluicing ?

Sorry, I know nothing about this river stuff..
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#3747919 - 08/29/14 10:42 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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What is sluicing ?

Sorry, I know nothing about this river stuff..
That's when they open the gates at the bottom of the dam and let out some serious water without generating any power from it. They usually do that on the Clinch when the water level on the lake is getting too high and they need to dump a lot of water in a short amount of time.

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#3748040 - 08/29/14 12:38 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: SES]
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Ahhh I see said the blind man.
Thanks.
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#3748048 - 08/29/14 12:45 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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Right now they are sluicing 250 CFS. To give some comparison, when running one generator it is about 3,600 CFS. The only reason they sluice this time of year is to maintain water quality for the fish in the river. It will not be a factor for you. 250 CFS makes that river very fishable and is great for good canoe levels without having to drag.
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#3748054 - 08/29/14 12:50 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: Dbllunger]
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Right now they are sluicing 250 CFS. To give some comparison, when running one generator it is about 3,600 CFS. The only reason they sluice this time of year is to maintain water quality for the fish in the river. It will not be a factor for you. 250 CFS makes that river very fishable and is great for good canoe levels without having to drag.
I wish I still had pictures on my phone of them sluicing the Clinch. I'm talking thousands of gallons per second shooting over 100' down river from the face of the dam. Definately wouln't want to be wading in the Clinch while sluicing.

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#3748063 - 08/29/14 12:59 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: Dbllunger]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
Right now they are sluicing 250 CFS. To give some comparison, when running one generator it is about 3,600 CFS. The only reason they sluice this time of year is to maintain water quality for the fish in the river. It will not be a factor for you. 250 CFS makes that river very fishable and is great for good canoe levels without having to drag.


When will the information be avaliable that tells how many generators they will be running tomorrow?
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#3748116 - 08/29/14 01:37 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: Dbllunger
Right now they are sluicing 250 CFS. To give some comparison, when running one generator it is about 3,600 CFS. The only reason they sluice this time of year is to maintain water quality for the fish in the river. It will not be a factor for you. 250 CFS makes that river very fishable and is great for good canoe levels without having to drag.


When will the information be avaliable that tells how many generators they will be running tomorrow?


It is usually around 4pm CDT.
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#3748132 - 08/29/14 01:55 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: scn]
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Cool, thanks scn.
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#3748194 - 08/29/14 03:14 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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One generator from 9-11 am tomorrow. Depending on where you start and finish and time of day, you may never even see this water.
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#3748259 - 08/29/14 05:34 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
What is sluicing ?

Sorry, I know nothing about this river stuff..


Here is a pic of Center Hill dam sluicing- usually calm water gets some rock n roll.

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#3748889 - 08/30/14 03:29 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: bigluresonly]
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The 250 CFS sluicing is when no generators are running. Normal one generator is around 3600 cfs, as stated above. But yesterday, last week, and every time I checked in the past month, the actual was 5200 cfs with one generator scheduled. the water was noticably more silty, and the current stronger than normal.

Here is the usual times for the water to arrive at various places, based on one generator:

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#3756955 - 09/08/14 09:29 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: jakeway]
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http://www.tva.gov/lakes/cnh_r.htm this will give you all the gen. schedule. Usually, dead on.
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#3757085 - 09/08/14 11:38 AM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: bowriter]
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I don't see how some of ya'll float the Caney in a tube. That's some cold water!

REN... let's make one more trip before it gets cool outside!

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#3757146 - 09/08/14 12:39 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: TNReb]
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I agree Nyper.
Feels good with waders on but I can't see staying in it long wearing shorts or whatever.
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#3757163 - 09/08/14 01:03 PM Re: Generation schedule on the Caney ? [Re: RUGER]
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I agree Nyper.
Feels good with waders on but I can't see staying in it long wearing shorts or whatever.


When me and REN went a few weeks ago, we saw a kayak paddle on the bottom. This was right when they had started generating and the water was rising and getting faster.

We're in a 10ft plastic pontoon with a trolling motor. I decided I'm going to get that paddle, thinking it was about 3ft deep. Didn't even bother looking at my depth finder.

I get the boat over the paddle and have the trolling motor going 100% upstream. It's doing good just to fight the current and stay in place.

I jump in... and realize I'm up to the middle of my chest. I try to reach down and grab it, and get swept away.

REN gets the boat back over to me, and I try to climb in. I lose both of my shoes and nearly yank the trolling motor off the boat.

I position us slightly upstream of the paddle for attempt #2. I jump in.. and now the water is even deeper. I dive down.. grab the paddle.. and it's stuck. Wouldn't budge.

That water was cold.

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