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#3736435 - 08/18/14 09:59 AM Trout question
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As some might have read I fished the Caney Fork this weekend and LOVED it.

Anyway, just curious, I know they stock trout up there and I know ALL of them aren't caught and kept.

Will the trout that stay in the river for several years reproduce?

Might be a stupid question but since I have no clue, I thought I would ask. \:\)
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#3736469 - 08/18/14 10:36 AM Re: Trout question [Re: RUGER]
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Twra will tell you no, and I honestly don't know on the Caney. However they do reproduce fairly heavily on the Clinch but mainly rainbows. Right now the slower water near the banks are loaded with young trout
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#3736470 - 08/18/14 10:37 AM Re: Trout question [Re: Setterman]
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Cool, thanks.

Just one of the MANY things I don't know about trout.
I do know, however, I am going back. \:D
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#3736693 - 08/18/14 03:09 PM Re: Trout question [Re: RUGER]
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They say they won't, but someone told me they found baby rainbow trout on the Harpeth river here a few yrs ago, which is only stocked in the winter and too warm in the summer
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#3736776 - 08/18/14 04:42 PM Re: Trout question [Re: catman529]
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I know on the Caney they certainly try, not sure if they are successful or not.
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#3736869 - 08/18/14 06:18 PM Re: Trout question [Re: bigluresonly]
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They spawn but the survival rate is close to zero for Browns, would imagine the same holds true for Bows.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&....73231344,d.aWw
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#3736871 - 08/18/14 06:20 PM Re: Trout question [Re: JMcB]
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 Originally Posted By: JMcB
They spawn but the survival rate is close to zero for Browns, would imagine the same holds true for Bows.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&....73231344,d.aWw


No offense, but that study is laughable as are most by those "biologists". Same fols said slot limits wouldn't work, but now say they're great.

I do agree though in part on the brown trout especially on the Clinch, I've never seen any evidence to support successful brown trout reproduction. Rainbows, and I'm talking Clinch only, are having very successful spawns and have been for at least 10 years. The evidence is easy to find but the "biologists" seem to ignore it.


Edited by Setterman (08/18/14 06:44 PM)

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#3736893 - 08/18/14 06:46 PM Re: Trout question [Re: Setterman]
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Wow....smh......someone has an axe to grind.
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#3736919 - 08/18/14 07:06 PM Re: Trout question [Re: Setterman]
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 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: JMcB
They spawn but the survival rate is close to zero for Browns, would imagine the same holds true for Bows.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&....73231344,d.aWw


No offense, but that study is laughable as are most by those "biologists". Same fols said slot limits wouldn't work, but now say they're great.

I do agree though in part on the brown trout especially on the Clinch, I've never seen any evidence to support successful brown trout reproduction. Rainbows, and I'm talking Clinch only, are having very successful spawns and have been for at least 10 years. The evidence is easy to find but the "biologists" seem to ignore it.


I am curious as to how bows can reproduce in the same habitat where browns are unsuccessful.
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#3737137 - 08/19/14 10:26 AM Re: Trout question [Re: JMcB]
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 Originally Posted By: JMcB
 Originally Posted By: Setterman
 Originally Posted By: JMcB
They spawn but the survival rate is close to zero for Browns, would imagine the same holds true for Bows.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&....73231344,d.aWw


No offense, but that study is laughable as are most by those "biologists". Same fols said slot limits wouldn't work, but now say they're great.

I do agree though in part on the brown trout especially on the Clinch, I've never seen any evidence to support successful brown trout reproduction. Rainbows, and I'm talking Clinch only, are having very successful spawns and have been for at least 10 years. The evidence is easy to find but the "biologists" seem to ignore it.


I am curious as to how bows can reproduce in the same habitat where browns are unsuccessful.


Rainbows vastly outnumber Browns for one thing, which is probably a huge reason why they are more successful. Also browns generally do their thing in the fall when tva is running maximum flows to draw down Norris, which makes survival rates much lower of any fry. The Rainbows usually hatch in late Feb or early March which coincides with tva filling Norris and low flows which many years last well into July which allows the fry to put on enough size that they can survive.

All I know is that right now any log pile, back eddy, etc near the bank is absolutely loaded with young of the year rainbows which are too small to have been stocked. This occurs every year, yet TWra folks will look you in the eye and say there's no reproduction. Either they don't know or are lying. I'm inclined to think they just don't know because of their sampling methods.

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#3737528 - 08/19/14 04:16 PM Re: Trout question [Re: Setterman]
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What sampling methods would you suggest?
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#3737574 - 08/19/14 05:04 PM Re: Trout question [Re: rukiddin?]
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 Originally Posted By: rukiddin?
What sampling methods would you suggest?



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#3742465 - 08/23/14 10:26 PM Re: Trout question [Re: Setterman]
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The smallest trout I've ever seen on the Caney was about 6 inches.
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