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#3706742 - 07/10/14 12:09 PM Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon
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In the case, the plaintiff claims the Obama administration – in particular, the Internal Revenue Service -- is breaking the law by offering tax subsidies in all 50 states to offset the cost of health insurance. The suit maintains that the language in ObamaCare actually restricts subsidies to state-run exchanges -- of which there are only 14 -- and does not authorize them to be given in the 36 states that use the federally run system, commonly known as HealthCare.gov.

A ruling against the subsidies would mark the biggest blow to ObamaCare to date, and would threaten the entire foundation of the newly devised health care system. A total of $1 trillion in subsidies is projected to be doled out over the next decade.

"A legal victory for those challenging the subsidies would achieve a large part of what congressional Republicans have sought but have been unable to achieve legislatively – rolling back and unraveling ObamaCare,” Joe Carlson warned in the industry publication “Modern Healthcare,”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/10/decision-coming-soon-in-case-that-could-topple-obamacare/
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#3706744 - 07/10/14 12:17 PM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: JWW4]
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Very interesting

Thanks!!
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#3715764 - 07/22/14 11:19 AM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: Crappie Luck]
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SMACK!!!

A federal appeals court dealt a major blow to ObamaCare on Tuesday, ruling against the legality of some subsidies issued to people through the Affordable Care Act exchanges.

Though the ruling is likely to be appealed, the decision threatens to gut the foundation of the law by potentially nixing subsidies that millions of people obtained through the federally run exchange known as HealthCare.gov.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled 2-1 that the IRS went too far in extending subsidies to those who buy insurance through that website.

The suit maintained that the language in ObamaCare actually restricts subsidies to state-run exchanges -- of which there are only 14 -- and does not authorize them to be given in the 36 states that use the federally run system.

The court agreed.

Federal apperal court invalidates some Obamacare subsidies
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#3715806 - 07/22/14 11:57 AM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: JWW4]
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If it stands, and the weak-kneed GOP doesn't agree to amend the law, this would functionally starve the beast to death.
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#3715831 - 07/22/14 12:27 PM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: Still-n-Quiet]
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Off to the Supreme Court again......
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#3715916 - 07/22/14 02:00 PM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: preds1]
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 Originally Posted By: preds1
Off to the Supreme Court again......


Yep...another 5 to 4 decision. Which way is the question..
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#3715938 - 07/22/14 02:45 PM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: TOW]
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 Originally Posted By: TOW
 Originally Posted By: preds1
Off to the Supreme Court again......


Yep...another 5 to 4 decision. Which way is the question..




Not sure I read this right, but it appears there is another court between this decision and the Supreme Court. That court is made up of 7 Dem appointees (4 of which Obama appointed) and 4 Repub appointees. If so, we know how that will go.
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#3715959 - 07/22/14 03:23 PM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: farmin68]
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I don't even see where there should be a debate.

It's the "Law of the land".

The Obama attorneys are arguing that we should see the law for how they 'Meant" it to be, not as it is written.

They wrote it, they voted on it, they passed it. Now they say they meant to write something else - Honestly, that is their defense.

In other words, the law is not the law, the law is what they SAY the law is.

It should be 7-0 and anyone who votes for anarchy should be disbarred.
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#3715990 - 07/22/14 03:32 PM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: Crappie Luck]
JWW4
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
I don't even see where there should be a debate.

It's the "Law of the land".

The Obama attorneys are arguing that we should see the law for how they 'Meant" it to be, not as it is written.

They wrote it, they voted on it, they passed it. Now they say they meant to write something else - Honestly, that is their defense.

In other words, the law is not the law, the law is what they SAY the law is.

It should be 7-0 and anyone who votes for anarchy should be disbarred.


The other part of this is the case involves an IRS regulation not the law itself. They are deciding if the regulation is consistent with the wording of the law. If they some how rule the regulation is consistent, the next administration can change the regulation to obey the letter of the law not what "they meant" it to say. It really leaves everything up in the air with total uncertainty.
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#3716217 - 07/23/14 07:17 AM Re: Obamacare subsidy case will be announced soon [Re: JWW4]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QV7dDSgbaQ0

Thinking maybe they should have actually read the bill before voting on it instead of taking Nancy's advice?

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