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#367120 - 08/27/07 01:52 PM Food plot and something to cut for hay?
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I have a local cattle farmer that would like to cut my 4 acre plot to bale for his cattle. It would be a great help to me to let him do that. Right now it is in chicory and clover. What could we plant that would be good for turkey and deer as well as something for his cattle.
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#367128 - 08/27/07 01:57 PM Re: Food plot and something to cut for hay? [Re: ]
gil1
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Wouldn't the cattle mow down anything before the deer and turkey could benefit? Unless you're talking about a massive food plot?
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#367998 - 08/27/07 10:12 PM Re: Food plot and something to cut for hay? [Re: gil1]
farmin68
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Gil, Instead of grazing, I believe the farmer will be mowing and baling the plot for hay.

Dapper, are you wanting to plant something he can bale this fall or next spring?

If he wants to bale it in the spring, wheat makes pretty good hay. An oat/wheat mixture might also work. Just remember, my name might be farmin, but I don't know much of anything about cattle and hay.
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#368204 - 08/27/07 11:56 PM Re: Food plot and something to cut for hay? [Re: farmin68]
gil1
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Now I got ya. Sorry, can't seem to keep the moron factor from creeping in lately.
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#368562 - 08/28/07 10:03 AM Re: Food plot and something to cut for hay? [Re: gil1]
STEELMAN
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Alfalfa makes great hay and the deer will cross other plots to get to it. You've got to have a high PH to grow it.
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#368915 - 08/28/07 02:42 PM Re: Food plot and something to cut for hay? [Re: STEELMAN]
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No. There will be no cattle grazing on the plot. The cattleman lives about two miles down the road. On the other hand, I live about 45 minutes away and have to tote my mower and ATV over to cut each time.
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#371300 - 08/29/07 05:14 PM Re: Food plot and something to cut for hay? [Re: ]
Anderson
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Dapper, drop me a note offline for more info.

Generally, grasses are not too great for deer and are not well-utilized except for fall-winter-spring when they will work on wheat, rye, and oats as mentioned before. But these are annuals and can be hard to dry down for hay. Not much sense planting timothy, orchardgrass, etc.

Alfalfa is the best option if it can work for both parties.

Clovers are okay for hay, but not great. Have to go with the taller types. Big clovers such as red clover get a bad rap for deer plots, but many folks report very good use by deer. The naysayers complain about the big coarse stem, but the deer don't eat that part...they just nip the tender tops off. Some white clovers are pretty large(Jumbo ladino, etc) and maybe the guy would be willing to cut and bale it. Best if he doesn't cut it all at once, but that might not be practical. admgt@csonline.net
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#376481 - 09/01/07 05:25 PM Re: Food plot and something to cut for hay? [Re: Anderson]
RJmarine
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What about arrowleaf?I bushogged my arrowleaf/ladino/chicory plot in late june because i thought it was shading out the ladinos. It was waist high left a thick layer of thatch. I wish I would've had someone bale it instead.
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