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#3666352 - 05/09/14 10:06 AM I know this guy.
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I have an acquaintance who made his way out to the Bundy ranch early on. When the now infamous pics starting surfacing, I was surprised to see him in a defensive position pointing his rifle at the feds. Now the FBI is investigating him:

http://bearingarms.com/fbi-investigating-bundy-ranch-standoff-video/

...it all happened so fast was not trying to be famous ... But I stand by the fact that I have the right to defend my life when it is threatened...I only took a defensive position when they told the crowd that they had "been Authorized to use lethal force"... and the day before law makers in Nevada had publicly stated that Bundy supporters should bring body bags and funeral money. Anyways... they are going to do what they are going to do hopefully I get A day in court not shot in the back of the head while in cuffs.

What do you think? You think the FBI is going to snatch him up?
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#3666366 - 05/09/14 10:15 AM Re: I know this guy. [Re: Poser]
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Wow.
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#3666368 - 05/09/14 10:15 AM Re: I know this guy. [Re: Poser]
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No doubt the Feds are going to try and "save face" and make an example out of ANYONE they can single out and identify.

That is typical of a Govt. becoming tyrannical and oppressive.
He may be one of the first, but he will not be the last.
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#3667168 - 05/10/14 01:01 PM Re: I know this guy. [Re: Crappie Luck]
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i predict he will be fine.
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#3667187 - 05/10/14 02:17 PM Re: I know this guy. [Re: savageman]
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I'm sure he will be arrested soon.
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#3668355 - 05/12/14 09:31 AM Re: I know this guy. [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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I expect a pretty lively show trial on a litany of charges. I doubt charges of any substance can stick, since no shots were fired in either direction, and they can't determine where that muzzle was aimed, whether there were live rounds in the rifle, or to what extent the group was provoked.

Somewhere, the truth is out there, and it's probably somewhere in between the government stance and the "militia" stance. Unfortunately, I think it's given the government forces too much of an insight into the minds of any future resistance.
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#3668987 - 05/13/14 04:38 AM Re: I know this guy. [Re: TAFKAP]
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What laws were broken?
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#3669353 - 05/13/14 01:30 PM Re: I know this guy. [Re: BamaProud]
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 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
What laws were broken?


IDK. You'd think this would only be subject to Nevada state law. What federal laws would even apply here? Some of kind of brandishing perhaps?

Think about it this way: Game wardens often walk up to hunters who are "checking them out" through their rifle scopes. While not safe, certainly not smart, and likely to the dismay of the wardens, I've never heard of a charge for doing so.
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#3669606 - 05/13/14 07:32 PM Re: I know this guy. [Re: Poser]
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My guess would be assault or assault with a deadly weapon.

Florida Laws:

In Florida, an assault is intentional threats, words or actions that cause a person to feel afraid of impending violence. (Fla. Stat. 784.011.) Battery is actual offensive physical contact, such as punching another person or hitting someone with an object. (Fla. Stat. 784.03.)

Aggravated Assault

Aggravated assault is an assault with a deadly weapon or with the intent to commit a felony. (Fla. Stat. 784.021.) Assault does not require an intent to injure, only the intent to cause the victim fear of an immediate attack.
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#3669919 - 05/14/14 07:45 AM Re: I know this guy. [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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 Originally Posted By: FLTENNHUNTER1
My guess would be assault or assault with a deadly weapon.

Florida Laws:

In Florida, an assault is intentional threats, words or actions that cause a person to feel afraid of impending violence. (Fla. Stat. 784.011.) Battery is actual offensive physical contact, such as punching another person or hitting someone with an object. (Fla. Stat. 784.03.)

Aggravated Assault

Aggravated assault is an assault with a deadly weapon or with the intent to commit a felony. (Fla. Stat. 784.021.) Assault does not require an intent to injure, only the intent to cause the victim fear of an immediate attack.


But these are state laws. The state is not investigating him, the FBI is. What kind of federal charges can they throw at him? (I suppose the feds could pressure the state to prosecute, but that doesn't appear to be the case).
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