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#383826 - 09/06/07 07:48 AM Re: Another example of why I don't like ARs [Re: grundsow]
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Your in PA not TN. There are more mature 6 points in TN than there, I know because I got stuck just north of you for two long years. Here is one just got off the trail camera yesterday and where I am at in TN there is no asphalt within this bucks range! Plus in TN we think it is more sporting to use a rifle or bow than a truck. \:\)

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#383891 - 09/06/07 08:09 AM Re: Another example of why I don't like ARs [Re: grundsow]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: grundsow
It just seem like there'd be very few lifetime 6-points, that it's not worth being concerned about.
That may be true, but I once saw a 140-class 6-pointer that I'd appreciate as "trophy antlers" more than most 170-class 10-pointers.

In your above quote, how would you feel if we substituted "8-points" for the 6-points?

We have some WMA's in TN where the only legal bucks are those with 9 or more points, and I assure you there are more than a few lifetime 8-pointers.

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#383960 - 09/06/07 08:34 AM Re: Another example of why I don't like ARs [Re: Wes Parrish]
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It just seem like there'd be very few lifetime 6-points, that it's not worth being concerned about.

I've seen enough to be concerned about it. Maybe 10-15% of all mature bucks. Why protect these bucks?
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#384532 - 09/06/07 01:35 PM Re: Another example of why I don't like ARs [Re: Mike Belt]
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 Originally Posted By: Mike Belt
If I'm not mistaken Alan's reasoning for the spike rule was because the deer on PI had the genetics and the nutrition available to produce better than spike deer overall so he was culling them.


But why use the spike rule on Laurel Hill WMA ? It is average deer habitat and doesn't have the same quality genetics as P.I.
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#384664 - 09/06/07 03:08 PM Re: Another example of why I don't like ARs [Re: Radar]
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If you two don't stop saying "has the genetics" I'm going to come find you! \:D I know where you both live! ;\)
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#385675 - 09/07/07 06:11 AM Re: Another example of why I don't like ARs [Re: BSK]
Mike Belt
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I'm sorry, lol. PI provides the nutrition and protection for the deer to show off their basic genetic potential earlier than in most cases.
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#385743 - 09/07/07 07:12 AM Re: Another example of why I don't like ARs [Re: Mike Belt]
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Exactly Mike. PI has a very advanced buck age structure. This should keep the peak of rut as early as possible, which will reduce the number of late-born bucks (the major contributor to spike yearlings). And considering PI is in the best MS River floodplain soils and is basically all high-quality agriculture, antler development should be extremely high. If a yarling buck is a spike under those conditions he is either a rare late-born buck or he really does have a genetic problem.
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