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#3661889 - 05/03/14 05:59 PM Wanting a new bow...
Crow Terminator
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Well I finally got to coon finger a Pro Comp Elite with Spiral X cams in my draw length. I saw one at a shoot this weekend and was shocked it was in my draw length and poundage. Me likey. Me likey A LOT. The Spirals are much different than the GTX cams on my Pro Comp but in a good way. I really liked the feel of them. The GTX has a medium size valley but it's just enough that if you aren't pulling into the wall, that it let's you creep a little. I loved the valley on the Spirals. Now the fun...should I just get a Pro Comp Elite with Spirals or convert mine over? I think I might just get the bow itself \:\) If I win enough $ with the current Pro Comp Elite that I have now, I might use that money to get one with Spirals. Haha it never ends.
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#3662796 - 05/05/14 07:05 AM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: Crow Terminator]
DixieCrafter
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I feel your addiction! Once you get to know Spirals it makes all the difference in the world! It's hard for me to imagine not shooting them especially with a hinge!
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#3662986 - 05/05/14 11:55 AM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: DixieCrafter]
Crow Terminator
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There's a nice looking black PCE on ArcheryTalk right now...28/60. I am very tempted. \:\) I liked the feel of those Spirals. With the hinge, it felt very easy to shoot.
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#3663030 - 05/05/14 12:31 PM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: Crow Terminator]
DixieCrafter
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 Originally Posted By: Crow Terminator
There's a nice looking black PCE on ArcheryTalk right now...28/60. I am very tempted. \:\) I liked the feel of those Spirals. With the hinge, it felt very easy to shoot.


Tried to tell you! Lol!
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#3663095 - 05/05/14 02:02 PM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: DixieCrafter]
Crow Terminator
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I know I know. But I had heard the Spirals ran long on the draw and didn't want to order anything without being certain it would fit. Hoyt doesn't make it easy to change draw length on those suckers. You need new cams, string and cables, etc. Every time. Now that I know a 28" fits me well...All I need is to decide whether to convert mine over or just get another bow already built and keep my other as a backup. I would hate to rid myself of the bow that I've already won so much with and shoot better than anything else I've ever had. That could be a recipe for disaster.
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#3663314 - 05/05/14 06:02 PM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: Crow Terminator]
HogHvn
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You may want to wait til the new Mathews Comp bow comes out. \:\)

Edited by Turd Farmer (05/05/14 06:03 PM)
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#3663664 - 05/06/14 07:04 AM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: HogHvn]
Crow Terminator
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 Originally Posted By: Turd Farmer
You may want to wait til the new Mathews Comp bow comes out. \:\)


Naah. I don't wanna handicap my shooting by going to a Mathews. Hahah. I've been on a pretty good roll with the Hoyt. I had a bad round at the Benton shoot this weekend and it was still good enough for 2nd place. \:\) That's how you know when you've got something good going...when you have a bad day and still outshoot the majority of the other shooters.

I don't think the Hoyt bows are for everybody...the Pro Comp Elite just happens to be a near perfect match for my body frame and shooting style. The overall geometry, string angle, etc just fit me very well and you can see the fruits of that via the tournament results. I know of at least two other local guys that have the same bow, just in different colors, and they don't really shoot 'em that great. I do seem to have hit a bit of a wall though in my shooting. I seem to be stuck in the 10-14 up bracket right now. I'm not complaining by no means...last year it was only on a very good day that I was hitting those scores, and this yr it just seems to come pretty regular. I don't have much to go before I win out of Open C in ASA...but before I get out of it, I would like to shoot 20 up at least once. I know when I get into K45 or Open B...whichever way I decide to go...that its gonna be a lot harder to get there. But right now I do feel I can be moderately competitive. It just seems that most everybody that is serious in tournaments with a Hoyt bow, has those Spiral X cams...which my bow does not have. So I wonder if that might be the ticket to gaining some extra points here and there that might get me that elusive 20 up.

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#3664044 - 05/06/14 12:57 PM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: Crow Terminator]
DixieCrafter
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Crow,

We all hit plateaus, dips, and valleys in our shooting! Sometimes it takes a lot of work, effort and a "aha" moment to climb to out next level!!! As I have said before Spirals are worth the extra effort learning curve! Once you shoot them and understand the design it really makes perfect sense about the how and why to shoot the Spirals!

When I ordered my Orange PCE last December I ordered in my normal draw length of 29" and it feeels about right. At times I have wondered if 28.5 would feel better?

When I bought the green PCE XL, which was slightly used it had a 28.5 draw length and I thought it would be perfect! Wrong! The number 4.0 Spiral is 28.5" draw on the PCE XL and this turned out to be too short for me! I ordered a set of 4.5 Spirals off of the AT classified for $70.00 bucks. Spirals will cover a one inch range of draw length before having to change the threads. So for the XL changing from a 28.5" draw to a 29" draw length meant I would need new threads!

When I got the cams and made the threads it was time to go to work! I completely dis-assembled the bow to inspect,clean,lube,and change out the cams. Once the bow was reassembled I timed the cams, removed the cam lean, and brought the bow into specs. It was definitely the thingee to do! From what I can tell the draw length on the regular PCE runs about spot on, but the XL mahy run a wee bit on the short side!

You definetly NO NOT want a bow with Spirals that has too long a draw for you!
I have a set of 4.0 and 4.5 Sprials if you need them!
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#3666383 - 05/09/14 10:33 AM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: DixieCrafter]
Poleaxe
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Homie you just bought 6 or 7 new bows a couple months ago. You starting a museum at your place?
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#3666605 - 05/09/14 02:41 PM Re: Wanting a new bow... [Re: Poleaxe]
Crow Terminator
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Poleaxe -- I don't really buy new bows. I only have one local shop that I will go to and buy from if I do decide to get a new one, and he just carries Prime and PSE.

I don't bow hunt anymore...I'm more of just a target archer these days. Hunting equipment and hunting bows are the money makers for shops in this area. Target archery is just a very very small minority when it comes to overall bow sales. Therefore most dealers will only order a target bow for somebody that is buying one and most of the time, prepays. In other words...you can't walk into most shops and expect to see a high dollar target bow hanging on the rack for you to hold and shoot. So if you want to shoot one of them...guess what you have to do. You have to custom order one brand new...sight unseen, and without shooting it first. You'll either like it, or you wont. So since going and shooting target bows is out of the question...the only way to find one you like is to buy them. And thus I buy used ones; simply because they are cheaper.

I will set them up for me at my specs...put my stuff on 'em...and then shoot them over the span of a few weeks. This is the first year I've really got into the specific target bow thing. Up til now, I had always had a dual purpose bow...one I could hunt with and double as a 3D bow. I figured out I like shooting bows and competition a lot more than hunting with a bow, so now I'm into the target thing. It took a few bows before I found the one I knew was going to be staying with me. The Pro Comp Elite is a special bow. In hind sight I should have waited for one with Spiral cams. But instead, I jumped on one as soon as it was listed in the classifieds at ArcheryTalk, and it happened to have those GTX cams on it instead of Spirals.

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