#365112 - 08/25/07 08:29 PM
Alright camera users-answer me this...
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christmysavior
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This question may be best suited for BSK, but I will listen to anyone who wants to discuss this. I am getting excited looking at all of these good bucks on here and I am just wondering how many will hang around during the season. Last year I got pictures of a 1.5 year old five point all summer and never seen him during the season. My friend got a picture of a nice buck in August last year and killed the deer in November within a half mile of where the picture was taken. I often hear of people getting these pictures all summer, but never seeing the deer when season opens. Do you think they all relocate when the bachelor groups break up, or do you think they are still around and just staying smart and low?
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#365255 - 08/25/07 09:43 PM
Re: Alright camera users-answer me this...
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CopperHead77
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For what its worth last yr I got pics of a nice buck around the first part of July, he hung around 3 or 4 days then "poof" he's gone and walks back in front of the same camera on like the 15 of Nov.--where was he for over 5 months? I wish I knew--I think some bucks will leave their summer ground and won't come back,some leave and come back and I guess some just don't leave ..
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#365296 - 08/25/07 10:07 PM
Re: Alright camera users-answer me this...
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tnclayboy
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Well I got a pic of a six point at my grandmothers farm a month or so ago and the deer has a very noticable wart on his rt shoulder . Any way I got a pic of him this week here at the house. my house is over a river and through the woods about a mile and a half from cam to cam . so that buck has left his summer range at grandmothers and moved in here for this fall or he is covering alot of ground in search of water.
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#365413 - 08/26/07 12:29 AM
Re: Alright camera users-answer me this...
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J.C.W.
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it's all a part of deer 'hunting'
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#365419 - 08/26/07 12:57 AM
Re: Alright camera users-answer me this...
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8 POINTS OR BETTER
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Most of the 1 1/2 year old will move off when the rut starts, if their mother is still in the area. Most of the 2 1/2 year old and older will still be in the area. and new 1 1/2 year olds will move in. where I hunt we usually kill about 60 to 70% of the deer we get on camera that or 2 1/2 or older.
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#365721 - 08/26/07 12:49 PM
Re: Alright camera users-answer me this...
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BSK
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christmysavor,
Something I had suspected for a long time (from what I've seen on trail cams) and has recently been confirmed through GPS-collar studies, is that many older bucks (2 1/2+) have seasonal ranges within their entire annual range. By that I mean that bucks may use one area during the summer, but spend their fall months somewhere else. Those two destinct areas can be just hundreds of yards apart or miles apart. And for small-land hunters/managers, even a short-range shift can take a buck off of their property.
However, normally it ends up being a "zero net loss" situation, as bucks leaving an area at the end of summer are replaced by other bucks that move onto the property at the same time (summered somewhere else, but spend their fall months on the monitored property).
Exacty what percent of older bucks shift ranges seasonally is the question. I've seen it is high as 50% of all older bucks using a particular property. However, I think habitat quality plays a big role in that. It appears that properties that have better than average habitat, and especially good cover habitat, lose less bucks to seasonal shifting.
And that is why those implementing intense QDM or Trophy Management projects that involve extensive habitat improvement programs are so highly successful--far more than just trigger management alone programs (pass up all young bucks, shoot does, but no habitat management). These improved habitat properties end up with "net gain" seasonal range shifts, as in few older bucks leave because the habitat is so good, yet other bucks still shift into the property come fall. On intensively managed properties, I've seen this process double the number of older bucks regularly using a property from summer to mid-fall.
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#365723 - 08/26/07 12:51 PM
Re: Alright camera users-answer me this...
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BSK
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As for yearling bucks, the majority disperse from their birth range, so there's nothing you can really do to stop that. In the MidSouth, dispersal generally occurs just before the rut. I see most Yearling Buck Dispersal occuring in mid to late October.
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#366159 - 08/26/07 08:53 PM
Re: Alright camera users-answer me this...
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christmysavior
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Thank you guys for the great responses. I really appreciate it.
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