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#3656030 - 04/26/14 07:44 PM Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle
Doskil
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seasons are needed?

http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-...zzleloader.aspx

Its getting ridiculous now and not even the TWRA will be able to defend their muzzleloading seasons anymore.

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#3656058 - 04/26/14 08:07 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: Doskil]
EastTNHunter
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This concept has been around for several years as a custom feature (using primed, modified casings with muzzleloaders), and that velocity is no improvement over smokeless muzzleloaders... But you still have to clean nasty BP substitutes.

I don't see any more issue with it than I do with some of the faster and easier to shoot compound bows and crossbows that manufacturers come out with every year, and they cost a kings ransom as well. You can still use the usually cheaper, slower, and harder to shoot recurves, longbows, or older compounds and crossbows if you like, but you don't have to. To each his own.

To me there are far more important things to worry about, and far more pressing ethical concerns in hunting than this, so I have no issue with it whatsoever.

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#3656061 - 04/26/14 08:09 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: Doskil]
Wes Parrish
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My muzzleloading Savage (several years old) will outperform that "new" Remington. \:\)
Similar muzzleloading performance has been available (and at less cost!) for many years.

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#3656070 - 04/26/14 08:24 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: Wes Parrish]
cecil30-30
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My little H&R conversion will out perform that with 58grs of N120.. 200grs of triple 7???? OUCH...
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#3656128 - 04/26/14 09:43 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: cecil30-30]
deerhunter10
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waste of money for that particular gun.
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#3656149 - 04/26/14 10:15 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: deerhunter10]
landman
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One of the outfitters I elk hunted with had 2 Modern
MZ's
I a client showed up with a gun that couldn't cut
it out they came
One of the guides told me he shot antelope at 400 yds
with it, and they some 5 pelts...250 grans
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#3656441 - 04/27/14 01:45 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: landman]
AT Hiker
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 Originally Posted By: landman
One of the outfitters I elk hunted with had 2 Modern
MZ's
I a client showed up with a gun that couldn't cut
it out they came
One of the guides told me he shot antelope at 400 yds
with it, and they some 5 pelts...250 grans


I can introduce you to a rep for Huskemaw scopes out of Cody, WY. With just a bit of load tweaking most modern in-lines can shoot 400 plus yards with there optics.

Would I do it? I dont think so, Im just a little iffy on that distance. But if I draw my WY antelope muzzle loader tag this year I will probably wish I had it!
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#3656480 - 04/27/14 03:08 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: AT Hiker]
landman
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 Originally Posted By: AT Hiker
 Originally Posted By: landman
One of the outfitters I elk hunted with had 2 Modern
MZ's
I a client showed up with a gun that couldn't cut
it out they came
One of the guides told me he shot antelope at 400 yds
with it, and they some 5 pelts...250 grans


I can introduce you to a rep for Huskemaw scopes out of Cody, WY. With just a bit of load tweaking most modern in-lines can shoot 400 plus yards with there optics.

Would I do it? I dont think so, Im just a little iffy on that distance. But if I draw my WY antelope muzzle loader tag this year I will probably wish I had it!


I'm happy with my Pro-Hunter
When elk hunting my setup is good for 250yds
just takes time and practice 189 yds has been
my longest kill on a Bull with MZ
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#3656521 - 04/27/14 04:28 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: landman]
AT Hiker
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189yards is a good for a bull for sure. Hunting CO muzzle loader season?
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#3656530 - 04/27/14 04:40 PM Re: Tell me again why special muzzleloading rifle [Re: AT Hiker]
landman
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 Originally Posted By: AT Hiker
189yards is a good for a bull for sure. Hunting CO muzzle loader season?


NW
And got a client with a new place in NM
with landowner tags, hope to score one of them
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