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#3651537 - 04/21/14 04:16 PM They have already got 10 states
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with a total of 165 votes, just 105 votes short of pulling this off and most people don't ever know it.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/slam-el...o_code=ciztllbv
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#3651554 - 04/21/14 04:43 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Wildcat]
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Equally disturbing is how many self-professed, but often unread or uniformed, conservatives, have pushed for elimination of the Electoral College, sometimes here in this forum.
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#3651558 - 04/21/14 04:57 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Bambi Buster]
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Fools.
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#3651576 - 04/21/14 05:42 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
Equally disturbing is how many self-professed, but often unread or uniformed, conservatives, have pushed for elimination of the Electoral College, sometimes here in this forum.


I NEVER have. I have always posted about how it was important to KEEP the EC. long before you was ever a member.

The elimination of the Electoral College is a liberals wet dream.
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#3651578 - 04/21/14 05:43 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: BMan]
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The whole "Winner takes all" on each states electoral votes is equally bad.

You either have representation or you don't. The electoral votes should be distributed and sent to vote according to how your district voted.

By consolidating votes,first among districts and now among states, they are removing representation of voters.

and the voters LOVE them for it
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#3651594 - 04/21/14 06:03 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
Equally disturbing is how many self-professed, but often unread or uniformed, conservatives, have pushed for elimination of the Electoral College, sometimes here in this forum.


I NEVER have. I have always posted about how it was important to KEEP the EC. long before you was ever a member.

The elimination of the Electoral College is a liberals wet dream.


I know you haven't. I've read my post over several times and I cannot see where I stated, implied or even hinted that you had.

Congratulations on having been a member longer than I have. Did you have that giant chip on your shoulder back in the day? Did you always react like that when someone agreed with you? Sheesh.
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#3651616 - 04/21/14 06:34 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
Equally disturbing is how many self-professed, but often unread or uniformed, conservatives, have pushed for elimination of the Electoral College, sometimes here in this forum.


I NEVER have. I have always posted about how it was important to KEEP the EC. long before you was ever a member.

The elimination of the Electoral College is a liberals wet dream.


I know you haven't. I've read my post over several times and I cannot see where I stated, implied or even hinted that you had.

Congratulations on having been a member longer than I have. Did you have that giant chip on your shoulder back in the day? Did you always react like that when someone agreed with you? Sheesh.


Looks like you can't read someones post.

When you said, " but often unread or uniformed, conservatives, have pushed for elimination of the Electoral College, sometimes here in this forum. "

I let it be known that I was not one of them.
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#3651622 - 04/21/14 06:39 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
The whole "Winner takes all" on each states electoral votes is equally bad.

You either have representation or you don't. The electoral votes should be distributed and sent to vote according to how your district voted.

By consolidating votes,first among districts and now among states, they are removing representation of voters.

and the voters LOVE them for it


Stop that and the democrats would win the White House every 4 years too.

You have to remember that it's the larger states that are always in play, break them up and splint the vote between the parties of each state and the democrats will come out on top in enough large states. Remember sometimes they've counted 110% of the vote while everybody else counts 100% of the vote.
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#3651681 - 04/21/14 07:38 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Wildcat]
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No. The Democrats win because of large vote farms full on entitlements known as "cities".

Most of the rural areas outside these vote farms are more conservative.

If TN has 11 Electoral votes and 5 of them make up the Metro Vote farms, that leaves 6 electoral votes for the conservatives representing Tennessee.

The way is is now, the majority vote wins all 11. It was never intended to work that way. I have no idea of how Tennessee's metro area break up into electoral votes. By numbers are for demonstration purposes only.

If the electoral college was used today as it was written and intended, Obama would not have won either election.

1/2 or more of california and much of northern NY would go red \:\)
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#3651734 - 04/21/14 08:07 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
The way is is now, the majority vote wins all 11. It was never intended to work that way.

That's not true. The founding fathers left it to each state to decide how their electors would vote.
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#3651778 - 04/21/14 08:43 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: BMan]
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I know they left it to the states to decide how their electors were selected, but I wasn't aware they had differences in how they votes were cast.

You may be correct though, because they certainly have bastardized the process alone the way. There must have been some liberty to start the movement away from Districts into state-wide counts. At that point, having actual people cast an electoral vote is pointless. It's just a matter of counting up the "points'. Not sure that was the intent at all. It was designed to allow the people and the states to partner in electing the President. Now it's just a popularity or "Free stuff" contest.


I see California and DC have joined this compact. Anyone want to bet that the first time they have their votes go to a conservative, this whole deal will fall apart?

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#3651851 - 04/21/14 09:35 PM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck

I see California and DC have joined this compact. Anyone want to bet that the first time they have their votes go to a conservative, this whole deal will fall apart?


Valid point, but when that time comes, we'll all be too busy dodging "fallout" from pigs that can fly to remember the bet.
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#3652072 - 04/22/14 07:13 AM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Bambi Buster]
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If they are going to apply their electoral votes to whomever wins the popular vote, I can see some VERY pissed of liberals in Hollywood when California applies it's electoral votes to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul or Ben Carson.

.....whether HIllary is on a scheduled flight that day or not \:D
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#3652244 - 04/22/14 10:23 AM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Really don't think much will come of this. They've got about all of the states the will get (maybe a few more). No where near what they need.

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New York is the 10th state to come aboard. The District of Columbia, with three electoral votes, has also signed the agreement.

The other states are Maryland, New Jersey, Illinois, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Vermont, California, Rhode Island, and Washington.

Morris said all of the jurisdictions supporting the compact backed President Barack Obama in the 2012 election.

It also has been approved by at least one legislative body in these states: Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Oregon.
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#3652310 - 04/22/14 11:15 AM Re: They have already got 10 states [Re: Still-n-Quiet]
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They have 10 solid blue states and DC on board. Won't change much. Voter fraud in the swing states is a much bigger issue.
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