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#3645884 - 04/15/14 04:47 PM Freezing temps tonight
Big JWC 50
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Been reading about all the temp drops on alot of forums. In 2007 this happened and we had zero acorns on the ground. Most guys like this especially food plot guys cause they say deer have to move more to find food. But 2007 was 1 of my worse years hunting I can remember. Anybody else experience this? I usually always have great years when we have a lot of acorn drop? What do yall think? Will these temps kill the fruit and mast crop this year?
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#3645896 - 04/15/14 05:09 PM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: Big JWC 50]
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Good chance, temps are gonna depend on cloud cover.
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#3646103 - 04/15/14 07:57 PM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: MMHunter]
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had a banner year in 07


killed the acorns with the frost hope it does it again
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#3646260 - 04/15/14 09:37 PM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: Deer Assassin]
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in 07 the last frost was in early May. 2 weeks difference is a lot. our average final frost date is 4-12 so 4 or 5 days later isn't a big deal
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#3646279 - 04/15/14 09:54 PM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: redblood]
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best year hunting we ever had. but we don't have a lot of oak trees. but we plant the food for them. we killed 3 of the top 5 bucks ever off of one farm. and another farm the biggest. with tons of deer. and the best rut year I have seen in a very long time besides last year.

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#3646353 - 04/16/14 04:06 AM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: deerhunter10]
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I just love being in the woods hearing acorns fall!
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#3646492 - 04/16/14 07:35 AM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: redblood]
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 Originally Posted By: redblood
in 07 the last frost was in early May. 2 weeks difference is a lot. our average final frost date is 4-12 so 4 or 5 days later isn't a big deal


The killing freeze of 2007 occurred around April 15th. However, we had had an early green-up that year, trees were far more advanced in leafing out and blooming, and the freezing temps were much lower than what we experienced last night (low 20s and even upper teens). That freeze was so severe, it killed the leaves on all of the trees. I've never seen that occur before.
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#3646502 - 04/16/14 07:39 AM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: BSK]
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As for 2007, the hard spring freeze not only killed the acorn crop, it also killed all of the spring food sources for deer that are so critical for rebuilding lost winter body weight. In addition, most of TN experienced the hottest August on record that year as well as the worst late-summer drought on record. Then we also experienced one of the worst EHD outbreaks on record. That quadruple whammy--late freeze and loss of fall acorns and spring foods, record heat, record drought, and a record EHD outbreak--produced a major impact on the deer population.
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#3646544 - 04/16/14 08:05 AM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: BSK]
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Yes the 2007 freeze was in Mid April. It was in the low twentys for 2 nights in a row. We had an earlier green up than normal that year too.
All the leaves turned completely black. It was a very odd sight.

I think some areas may experience some damage, but not like it did in 2007.

I believe that the higher ridegtops and trees did not get frost, I believe it was too windy last night. It was clear all night, just too breezy up top. The bottoms got some frost on the grass. Looks like some of the wild daisy's got knocked back. The other stuff that has germinated or came out of dormancy should be able to take that light frost.

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#3646566 - 04/16/14 08:17 AM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: woodsman87]
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i planted apple, persimmon and sawtooth oaks in Dec and they were just budding and the apples had leaves. They are in tree tubes, do you think the temps last night, 26 in my area, hurt them?
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#3646576 - 04/16/14 08:24 AM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: Mr. Hawk]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr. Hawk
i planted apple, persimmon and sawtooth oaks in Dec and they were just budding and the apples had leaves. They are in tree tubes, do you think the temps last night, 26 in my area, hurt them?


I am no expert. But I think if there where frost on the Apple leaves for 3-4 hours that may knock them back. It will not kill the tree of course, just make it have to grow knew leaves.

I think the sawtoothes will be fine, I don't know about persimmons.

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#3648361 - 04/17/14 06:42 PM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: redblood
in 07 the last frost was in early May. 2 weeks difference is a lot. our average final frost date is 4-12 so 4 or 5 days later isn't a big deal


The killing freeze of 2007 occurred around April 15th. However, we had had an early green-up that year, trees were far more advanced in leafing out and blooming, and the freezing temps were much lower than what we experienced last night (low 20s and even upper teens). That freeze was so severe, it killed the leaves on all of the trees. I've never seen that occur before.


I also remember this year because in mid March maybe we had record high temps for about a week high 80s which like you said we had a super early green up

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#3648459 - 04/17/14 08:49 PM Re: Freezing temps tonight [Re: Big JWC 50]
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Mr. Hawk, your persimmons should be just fine. If they are old enough, they will bloom and bear fruit. Persimmons generally bloom after the last frost and can bear fruit at 3-4 years old.
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