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#3651704 - 04/21/14 07:51 PM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: Wes Parrish]
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Just remember at election time:some of our politicians don't consider shooters on a military base as terrorist but American's exercising First Amendment Rights are.
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#3651717 - 04/21/14 07:57 PM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: griz01]
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#3651839 - 04/21/14 09:25 PM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Ole Dirty Harry is going to pick a fight with the WRONG people. DON'T TREAD ON ME.
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#3651842 - 04/21/14 09:28 PM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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If this is true, this would be a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

Special Forces Members Among BLM Agents at the Bundy Ranch


Sgt Daniel Love, U.S. Army Airborne – “Green Beret,” was among the BLM agents in the Bundy Ranch Confrontation. In 2010, he was with the 7th Special Forces Group. Sgt Love, part of Special Operations Detachment A (ODA), served in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan. Several Special Forces Members were among the BLM agents during the standoff, according to information received by USMC. They were likely sent by President Obama. Why do we think that? Let’s look at it. An “A-Team” Daniel Love is part of an “A-Team.” ODA teams have 12 members. They are “self-sustaining and autonomous,” which means that they take orders directly from the White House. They are experts at insertion, and can survive in the middle of nowhere for extended periods of time. Let’s ask the question: why were they part of the action against the Bundy Ranch? Generally, Special Forces teams are deployed in other nations, not in the United States. But apparently, the White House felt the need to deploy extreme soldiers against a patriotic family in Nevada. Orders before oath

http://misguidedchildren.com/domestic-af...ndy-ranch/19404
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#3651867 - 04/21/14 09:48 PM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
If this is true, this would be a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

Special Forces Members Among BLM Agents at the Bundy Ranch


Sgt Daniel Love, U.S. Army Airborne – “Green Beret,” was among the BLM agents in the Bundy Ranch Confrontation. In 2010, he was with the 7th Special Forces Group. Sgt Love, part of Special Operations Detachment A (ODA), served in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan. Several Special Forces Members were among the BLM agents during the standoff, according to information received by USMC. They were likely sent by President Obama. Why do we think that? Let’s look at it. An “A-Team” Daniel Love is part of an “A-Team.” ODA teams have 12 members. They are “self-sustaining and autonomous,” which means that they take orders directly from the White House. They are experts at insertion, and can survive in the middle of nowhere for extended periods of time. Let’s ask the question: why were they part of the action against the Bundy Ranch? Generally, Special Forces teams are deployed in other nations, not in the United States. But apparently, the White House felt the need to deploy extreme soldiers against a patriotic family in Nevada. Orders before oath

http://misguidedchildren.com/domestic-af...ndy-ranch/19404


I saw nothing in the article to indicate that BLM agent Dan Love is currently serving in the U.S. Army, aside from this laughable little snippet, which gives lie to any credibility the piece might have had:

"....Once you are a member of Special Ops, you remain a member until you retire or die. You work for the government, period. It’s all about the orders..."

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#3651981 - 04/22/14 05:09 AM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: Bambi Buster]
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True or not, it significantly diminishes the hope of current, or former, military personnel standing for the constitution and not taking up arms against U.S. citizens.
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#3652126 - 04/22/14 08:30 AM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: Wes Parrish]
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 Originally Posted By: Wes Parrish
 Originally Posted By: de novo
 Originally Posted By: TAFKAP
There is something sinister at play here that leads me to believe the Bundy family, in favor of the BLM.

. . . . .
Sadly, some elected officials have inflamed the situation by labeling the Bundys and their supporters “domestic terrorists,” thus justifying any future use of force by the government. That means there is always the possibility of another deadly Waco-style raid on the Bundys or a similar group in the future.

. . . . . it so important that those of us who understand the freedom philosophy spread the truth about how statism caused our problems and why liberty is the only solution.

EXACTLY.

Meanwhile in related news . . . . .
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/...tcmp=latestnews

And just how is this related?
Via ILLEGAL executive order, Obama ordered the deaths of American citizens, and he did it thus far with impunity, in violation of our Constitution.

Now, government bureaucrats, including the despicable Harry Reid, are labeling the Bundy's "domestic terrorists" in their latest narrative. Will Obama now order a drone to go kill off those pesky Bundy's as he has already done to other Americans? What's to stop him?


I agree with you, but wait a minute. Where was all the "conservative" outcry when the Patriot Act, NDAA, the NSA spying, the drone program were started under the Bush administration? Is it only that they have been targeted at Muslim Americans overseas in addition to other Muslim terrorists? "Conservatives" actually believe these programs keep us safe and because "I have nothing to hide, I have nothing to fear"? You can't have it both ways. And it's not because the programs are now in the hands of a liberal progressive. They are equally dangerous to our freedoms regardless of who is in charge. Remember the words of Benjamin Franklin.

Why is everyone so surprised that these programs are being turned around and aimed at Americans. They, regardless of political party, are keeping you safe right? Isn't that all that matters? That's all rhetorical. Nonetheless, when an Americans rights are violated, your rights are violated. It doesn't make any difference whether you are a white male, Muslim, or homosexual. Do you really thin we'd have this fed.gov behemoth with Jim Crow, segregation, or if Eisenhower had been listened to and the communist boogeyman wouldn't have been allowed to distract us into starting the construction of the national security state. Bush II/Obama have used modern IT to expand to massive proportions. As others have said, elections have consequences, but so does hysteria and propaganda.
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#3652137 - 04/22/14 08:40 AM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: OHVATN]
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Every SWAT team is a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act
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#3652184 - 04/22/14 09:19 AM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: OHVATN]
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 Originally Posted By: OHVATN
. . . . . the programs are now in the hands of a liberal progressive. They are equally dangerous to our freedoms regardless of who is in charge.

While I can agree that certain "programs" are equally dangerous to our freedoms, I disagree about the "regardless of who is charge", as among other things, the guy in charge is either expanding those programs or curtailing them.

Also wasn't just talking about certain "programs". I was talking about illegal and unconstitutional executive orders being fired off at an unprecedented rate by Barack Obama. I was talking about the illegal transfer of power to government agencies behaving more like Russian Czars, like the BLM and the EPA, where they make quick arbitrary decisions to suddenly criminalize otherwise law-abiding Americans, even to the extent of threatening to bankrupt or even kill them if they don't comply.

We as Americans elected Barack Obama under his guise of CHANGE and TRANSPARENCY. Instead, not only has Obama simply continued and accelerated the worst of the status quo, but he has brought the worst of Chicago-style politics to Washington, himself often behaving in an arrogant and stupid manner, dividing rather than uniting Americans. He and his administration behaves more as a lawless dictatorship, only selectively enforcing existing law against those citizens considered not supportive of his ideals. Meanwhile, both illegal aliens and legal citizens deemed supportive of Obama's ideals are actually ENCOURAGED to break our laws with impunity by the Obama administration.

The bigger problem becomes that when laws are only selectively enforced based on politics, we no longer have any law & order, which has been much of the glue holding our society together, the premise of equal justice for all.

Meanwhile, let us not forget about all the innocent women and children, all American citizens, who were essentially murdered in Waco, TX by a government agency not that long ago. Why? How did that happen? Something very similar came to within a heartbeat of happening with the BLM/Bundy debacle.

Did the "punishments" fit the crimes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

Think about it.

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#3652191 - 04/22/14 09:28 AM Re: More info of the BLM/Bundy stand off [Re: MUP]
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 Originally Posted By: MUP
True or not, it significantly diminishes the hope of current, or former, military personnel standing for the constitution and not taking up arms against U.S. citizens.


The reason the founding fathers were against a standing army is that the soldiers in that standing army have in the past times had loyalty to the man paying them. The militia is fighting for their home not for the man as a hirling for the ruler.
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