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#3639406 - 04/08/14 04:33 PM P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting
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The Pope & Young Club official position statement:

The Pope and Young Club and its membership strongly condemn the killing of big game animals in artificial situations. An “artificial situation” is defined as a situation where animals are held in captivity, game-proof fenced enclosures or released from captivity. These unethical practices are often referred to as “canned hunts.” This shall be considered an unethical practice devoid of fair chase hunting ethics as the animals are not free-ranging.

These canned shoot situations present further concerns that impact the future of bowhunting. They weaken the public acceptance of legitimate fair chase bowhunting, provide possibilities for transmitting diseases, and corrupt the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. Animals held, or bred and raised for the purpose of trophy harvest, in these facilities are not considered wildlife. The killing of these animals is not managed by the authority of a wildlife management agency and the killing, itself, is devoid of any values embodied by legitimate hunting.

The Pope and Young Club does not accept into its Records Program any animal taken under any captive scenarios and considers these practices extreme examples of unethical hunting. The Pope & Young Club also considers this practice unethical treatment of North American big game animals.”
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#3639526 - 04/08/14 07:07 PM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: Poser]
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Agreed!
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#3639773 - 04/09/14 12:29 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: in the dog house!]
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Well, they should let me list my jacked up little 8 point in their record books. I'm proud of it!

I hate canned hunts too. People that actually pay for those are LOSERS!!!
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#3639819 - 04/09/14 05:29 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: Columbia Scott]
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#3639834 - 04/09/14 05:42 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: TRIGGER]
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Ah finally someone with a backbone.
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#3639869 - 04/09/14 06:39 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: Grill-n-man]
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#3639901 - 04/09/14 07:26 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: tickweed]
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Canned "hunts" disgust me. The problem is, when does a high-fenced property become a canned hunt? I've seen high-fenced properties where the hunting is no different than on an unfenced property. But at some point, the fenced area becomes too small for the hunting to be considered "fair chase." I just don't know where that point is.
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#3639998 - 04/09/14 08:53 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Canned "hunts" disgust me. The problem is, when does a high-fenced property become a canned hunt? I've seen high-fenced properties where the hunting is no different than on an unfenced property. But at some point, the fenced area becomes too small for the hunting to be considered "fair chase." I just don't know where that point is.


Agreed.

This is particularly head-scratching when looking at options of hunting stuff in Texas, where high-fenced ranches can be thousands (or tens of thousands) of acres. At some point, it is "effectively free-range", but that can vary based on things like the habitat enclosed and the species of animal in question.

For example...high fenced squirrel hunts in hardwoods environments. I have no problem with those whatsoever ;\)
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#3640022 - 04/09/14 09:19 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: Poser]
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Having participated in it, I'm against it all. It's more than just the size of the high fenced pen. There's all the breeding, farming, genetic manipulation, trading and transportation that is frequently part of the commercial high fenced industry.

Boone and Crockett has similar position statements on these and a number of other subjects on their website. Here are a few examples -

Boone and Crockett Club position statement Canned Shoots

Boone and Crockett Club position statement Genetic Manipulation of Game

Boone and Crockett Club position statement FAIR CHASE

I personally hope these practices develop such a negative stigma that it all comes crashing down commercially on those involved. I would like to see the collapse of this industry in Texas and elsewhere.
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#3640072 - 04/09/14 10:12 AM Re: P&Y Club statement on High Fence hunting [Re: Vermin93]
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Anything smaller than 3 acres is canned.
Anything larger is free range.


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