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#3633776 - 04/02/14 02:39 PM Mounting deer initially lost
JeepKuntry
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Not trying to stir the pot really, but am I the only one that would never consider mounting a buck that I didn't recover within a reasonable amount of time? You still failed to make a clean kill, failed to recover it in a timely manner, so why would you want that memory hanging on your wall?
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#3633778 - 04/02/14 02:40 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: JeepKuntry]
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I fully agree and would not want memorialize what I would consider a personal failure.
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#3633786 - 04/02/14 02:45 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: pass-thru]
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I would be disappointed in myself, not hold any grudge against the deer by not mounting it. My first bowkill was a 10pt. 130" buck that I didn't recover the same evening I shot. I was out there at first daylight the next AM and found him within 30 minutes not 50 yards from last blood. So no, I can't say I agree with you.
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#3633793 - 04/02/14 02:50 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: pass-thru]
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Unless if I was 100% sure it was my deer, I would not even claim it as the one I killed. I would either have had the deer on camera and known exactly what he looked like and recognized for 100% sure it was him when shooting or got the deer on video while shooting clear enough that there would be no doubt. Just because you shot a big eight in season does not mean the big eight you found is the deer you killed.. or wounded for that matter. There are a lot of dead deer in the woods.

If I knew it was mine for a fact, I personally would not mount it, BUT I would not look down on someone who did.

Unless it was still a tracking job in progress then I'd mount it. What I am referring to would be finding it weeks later by chance or shed hunting.


Edited by Master Chief (04/02/14 03:41 PM)
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#3633849 - 04/02/14 03:39 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Food Plot 101]
rem270
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 Originally Posted By: Food Plot 101
I would be disappointed in myself, not hold any grudge against the deer by not mounting it. My first bowkill was a 10pt. 130" buck that I didn't recover the same evening I shot. I was out there at first daylight the next AM and found him within 30 minutes not 50 yards from last blood. So no, I can't say I agree with you.


That's a clean kill in my book. Just happened not to find him that same day. So i'd mount it.


If i shot one say mid october and couldn't find it and then was walking in late january and found it dead then no i wouldn't mount it.
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#3633862 - 04/02/14 03:54 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: rem270]
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I would have no problem mounting a deer that I recovered at a later time. In fact, I think it would be a good way to respect the animal.
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#3633958 - 04/02/14 05:47 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Food Plot 101]
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 Originally Posted By: Food Plot 101
I would be disappointed in myself, not hold any grudge against the deer by not mounting it. My first bowkill was a 10pt. 130" buck that I didn't recover the same evening I shot. I was out there at first daylight the next AM and found him within 30 minutes not 50 yards from last blood. So no, I can't say I agree with you.


That's not exactly the scenario I was imagining. I've recovered a lot of deer the following morning. One in 90 degree heat and the meat was still good. As long as you don't abandon chase, you're good in my book. By that I mean keep looking except for sleep or work.

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#3633985 - 04/02/14 06:06 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: pass-thru]
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I think that has to be a personal decision.

For me I might go upwards of a week or two if it was a monster and I knew it was the same buck. I certainly would not hold it against someone if that was their idea of a trophy of a lifetime and it was found some time later and they wanted to mount it.

Here is a scenario for you. On a property I hunted once I shot a bobcat and could not locate it. The blood ran out after a exhaustive search. A few days later a worker was on the property and alerted me he found a dead bobcat in the general area I was hunting and told me about where to find it.

I had never shot a bobcat before nor had I ever seen a bob cat before so I was pretty stoked about recovering it. Had I found that bobcat I would sure have mounted it. But alas it was gone to the predators before I could get to it.

I have yet to see another bobcat in the wild.

I suspect he found a hole to crawl in or a tree to climb and hid out during the search only to come down after we were gone and crawl off and die.

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#3634541 - 04/03/14 07:16 AM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: JeepKuntry]
bigtex
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 Originally Posted By: JeepKuntry
so why would you want that memory hanging on your wall?

I've only mounted one deer that I didn't recover quickly, and that has been many, many years ago.
It is one of my best bow bucks,[10 point]
The hunt..........Mid October, edge of cut bean field, late afternoon. I had been sitting in my stand since before daylight, deer movement was slow, in fact I don't think I had seen a single deer all morning. Just about the time I was going to climb down and head back to camp I caught movement out of the corner of my eye. Two nice bucks were walking from right to left and were going to cross right in front of me at around 20 yds. Both bucks were good ones but the one in front looked a little larger. They were both walking at a fast pace. In a rush to get off a shot I didn't try to stop them, as a result my shot was just a tad "back" The wounded buck trotted about 30 yards up field and stopped, looking back from the direction he had come from then walked to the edge of the woods.
I immediately climbed down and walked to where I thought the buck had entered the woods. He was bedded and I jumped him up. I began trying to trail him again and bumped him again after about 50 yds.
I finally realized that I needed to give him some time so I headed back to camp and spent the most miserable and longest 4 hours in my hunting career. I found the spot where I jumped the deer last and found just a bit of blood in his bed, I could find no more sign of him, no blood, hair, etc. I searched till dark, then returned the next morning and again searched till dark. I had one more day to hunt before I had to return home and I spent that day again searching. But I never found another sign of him, I was to say the least disgusted.
I went back a week later, and hunted the same stand hoping that I would get a second encounter with him or at least see him and know that he had somehow survived. I didn't see a deer all morning so decided to climb down and take a different route back to camp. I hadn't gone maybe 300 yards when I smelled that unmistakable stink of a dead rotting deer. There wasn't much left of him after the coyotes and buzzards had finished with him, but his rack was unmistakable. I immediate "tagged" him and carried his head back to camp.
Yes, I mounted him on a fresh cape, why? Because he deserved to be mounted and every time I look at him it reminds me of all the mistakes I made on that fateful day.
Mistake number 1 I rushed the shot. Mistake number 2 I should of tried to put another arrow in him when he stopped, mistake number 3 I should of waited or even gone back to camp and given him more time before looking for a sign of a hit. Mistake number 4, again I should of waited for several hours before I took up the trail, instead I jumped him out of his bed. I'm almost positive if I had backed out and gone back in the morning I would of found him there or very close to his first bed.
I'm proud of that buck but it would of been so much more fun to have been able to make a clean shot, give him a little time and find him at the end of a short blood trail.
I make it a habit of looking at him every time I head out the door to go hunting and vow to never make the mistakes I made on that day again.
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#3634609 - 04/03/14 08:12 AM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: bigtex]
deerhunter10
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Most likely would not fully mount him just do a euro Mount.but it has never happened to me. I've made bad shots and not recovered but the two times it has happened I've never ever found them. So I don't really know for sure. Depends on the deer and what history and how long I've hunted him etc Lots of factors. Granted t is in a way a failure but IMO you owe it to the animal to give them as much respect as possible. So I would for sure show it off.
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#3634629 - 04/03/14 08:32 AM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: deerhunter10]
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I guess it all depends on why someone is hanging the deer on the wall. If it is to remember an exciting accomplishment, then I can't imagine mounting an animal the hunter failed to properly harvest.

However, I can see hanging an animal on the wall as a testament to what their hunting land can produce. I currently have a Euro-skull mount hanging on my cabin wall of the first documented 5 1/2 year-old buck the property ever produced. However, we did not kill him. He died of EHD in 2001. In fact, a hunter tried and failed to kill him in 1999, when the buck was 3 1/2. We have him on the wall simply as an appreciation of what the area can produce (150-class 5 1/2 year-old 8 point).
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#3634745 - 04/03/14 10:39 AM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: BSK]
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I hate wounding deer too but I'm all about a good mount. There is one deer I grazed with a muzzleloader that I wish I'd aimed a little higher on. He only had a nick but I never saw him again. 120" ten point or so. If I found him today he'd be one for the wall.
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#3634782 - 04/03/14 11:25 AM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Columbia Scott]
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I saw a hunting show once where they found a guy's deer the next summer, probably a full 7-8 months later, and he danced around like he just walked up on a fresh kill. Sure, its some closure, relief maybe, but hardly anything to be joyous about. That deer could have died weeks or months later. As for mounting it, whatever floats your boat. I probably won't ever do more than a Euro mount on any kill. The largest rack I have in my Euro collection is from a dead deer I found while rabbit hunting.

Like BSK said, it could be mounted as a way to show what is possible or even sell, but claiming it as a "trophy" should always come with a qualifying statement. On some kind of abstract scale of the measurement of a trophy, a deer you found weeks or months later is not equivalent to a clean kill, IMO, especially if it is post season and the animal was not tagged.
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#3634863 - 04/03/14 12:46 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Poser]
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I would keep the horns but mount it no. To me it seems odd when folks use a different cape with a mount. To me its putting horns on a different deer.
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#3635245 - 04/03/14 08:09 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: WRbowhunter]
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It is also something you would want to coordinate with you local officer. The only types of deer that can be legally possessed in TN are road kills that are properly reported, depredation permit deer if the permit allows, and legal kills that are properly checked in.

All others fall into a VERY gray area, and if a taxidermist is found mounting them or you are found with a deer rack that is not a shed, then the issue may end up being discussed in court.
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#3635253 - 04/03/14 08:13 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: deerhunter10]
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I had a shoulder mount of a buck I killed but didn't recover until one year later.. Only dear to date I have ever killed with a bow.. It was 2007 and mid September during Kentucky's bow season.. I was hunting over a small pond and It was a non-typical 9pt that is mid 120's.. It was an excellent shot right behind the shoulder with a clean pass thru at 20yds... He ran thru the pine plantation and over to a shelf that was about a 50ft drop off down and old creek bottom.. I tracked until I lost blood that nite and looked for the needy 3 days I was up there. I never dreamed or even thought he would go off that bluff.. Opening weekend of gun season the following year I found him at the base of that bluff along the creek. I wasnt more than 30yds from him... Sure I didn't recover him by it wasn't due to making a poor shot or not doing things the right way.. I haven bow hunted since that weekend I shot him...
And as a side note I called the game wardens office in that area and received a phone call later that evening from the officer and explained the situation and was given permission to possess the skull and horns from that deer..


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#3635272 - 04/03/14 08:26 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: lpo1981]
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If I was in the situation I would probably do a euro mount
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#3635370 - 04/03/14 10:31 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: pass-thru]
Food Plot 101
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 Originally Posted By: pass-thru
 Originally Posted By: Food Plot 101
I would be disappointed in myself, not hold any grudge against the deer by not mounting it. My first bowkill was a 10pt. 130" buck that I didn't recover the same evening I shot. I was out there at first daylight the next AM and found him within 30 minutes not 50 yards from last blood. So no, I can't say I agree with you.


That's not exactly the scenario I was imagining. I've recovered a lot of deer the following morning. One in 90 degree heat and the meat was still good. As long as you don't abandon chase, you're good in my book. By that I mean keep looking except for sleep or work.


I ate this one, but it was a bit tainted by the time I got it dressed and butchered.

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#3635395 - 04/03/14 11:17 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Inkstainz]
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Mount it and hang it on the wall!
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#3635765 - 04/04/14 12:30 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Mossy Oak]
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 Originally Posted By: Mossy Oak
I would have no problem mounting a deer that I recovered at a later time. In fact, I think it would be a good way to respect the animal.


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#3635837 - 04/04/14 02:39 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Food Plot 101]
JeepKuntry
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 Originally Posted By: Food Plot 101
I would be disappointed in myself, not hold any grudge against the deer by not mounting it. My first bowkill was a 10pt. 130" buck that I didn't recover the same evening I shot. I was out there at first daylight the next AM and found him within 30 minutes not 50 yards from last blood. So no, I can't say I agree with you.
I don't see any issues there. What I referred to was from a post I saw, one where the shot was in November and recovery was here recently. It's up them to do as they want, but to me that's a failure in my book. No way would I want to mount a deer like that.
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#3636424 - 04/05/14 01:19 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: JeepKuntry]
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If I wanted to mount it, I would. Would make no difference when I found it or what anyone else thought. Can't figure out what that would have to do with anything. It aint a popularity contest.
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#3645829 - 04/15/14 04:02 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: bowriter]
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I have done Euros on all my bucks. This "later found buck" would also get the Euro treatment.
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#3646117 - 04/15/14 08:06 PM Re: Mounting deer initially lost [Re: Inkstainz]
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 Originally Posted By: Inkstainz
If I was in the situation I would probably do a euro mount


ditto i found one in turkey season i lost during rifle

no doubt it was the one i shot, i made a low brisket shot i know

i did an euro on it he had a nice rack
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