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#3625752 - 03/25/14 12:27 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
muddyboots
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I have never used the shells. I use nitros but they patterned as well or better than mine on video. I went to Winchester website and they say the shell is loaded with something 10 per cent heavier than lead. So they are saying they aren't lead. Are they lead shells?

Edited by muddyboots (03/25/14 12:27 PM)
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#3625757 - 03/25/14 12:32 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: muddyboots]
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Yes, the LBs are good ol'copper plated lead (vs. HTL).
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#3625764 - 03/25/14 12:44 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Boll Weevil]
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 Originally Posted By: Boll Weevil
Yes, the LBs are good ol'copper plated lead (vs. HTL).


Encased in some type of resin that pretty much fragments through the flightpath after the shell is fired.... it is supposed to hold the shot charge together a little longer.... The hulls I fired last week looked like they had been held over a fire and charred about a 1/2" from the open end....
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#3625795 - 03/25/14 01:08 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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#3625805 - 03/25/14 01:16 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
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70 yards?
Dang, I'll have to take a range finder with me now!!
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#3625834 - 03/25/14 01:51 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: LanceS4803]
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You might want to speak with Mr. Big about a target scope to go with that rangefinder.
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#3625862 - 03/25/14 02:08 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
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I get so frustrated year in and year out with companies promoting 55+ yard shots on turkey it makes me sick. That is not an ethical shot in my book what so ever !! I have patterned all kinds of turkeys loads and guns over the years and yes I can hold a good enough pattern at those distances to kill a paper turkey but a real turkey I think not...If you want a real good test take a 1/4 inch marine plywood out at 45 yards and see if it will penetrate through it. I strongly suggest you guys contemplating shooting the Longbeard 6's to due this as yes they will hold a pattern at 50 but in my experience they don't have the energy to penetrate. I see a lot of wounded and disgusted turkey hunters this spring that try to push the limits of what the shell is capable of doing. I have tested the 5's at 50 yards and 30% of the pellets penetrated all the way through. The 6's had less then 5% penetrate. The HTL loads definitely do penetrate better at longer distances but they don't hold a candle to the patterns the longbeards are giving in my opinion. That is why as turkey hunters and sportsmen it is our job to know what the tools we carry are capable of doing. That being said I have switched from Hevi shot mag blend this year to the longbeards I know at 45 yards(a reasonable shot)my gun is going to kill the bird without questions from my gun. Part of the joy of hunting these elusive birds is the fact of getting inside there comfort zone and watching them work!!
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#3625877 - 03/25/14 02:18 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Final steps TC]
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very good point final steps. no telling how many times if been some where eating breakfast or something and get to listening to hunters tell the stories about the misses of a long shot or I know I hit him I don't know why it didn't kill him blah blah blah, it drives me up the wall.
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#3625939 - 03/25/14 03:52 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Final steps TC]
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 Originally Posted By: Final steps TC
I get so frustrated year in and year out with companies promoting 55+ yard shots on turkey it makes me sick. That is not an ethical shot in my book what so ever !! I have patterned all kinds of turkeys loads and guns over the years and yes I can hold a good enough pattern at those distances to kill a paper turkey but a real turkey I think not...If you want a real good test take a 1/4 inch marine plywood out at 45 yards and see if it will penetrate through it. I strongly suggest you guys contemplating shooting the Longbeard 6's to due this as yes they will hold a pattern at 50 but in my experience they don't have the energy to penetrate. I see a lot of wounded and disgusted turkey hunters this spring that try to push the limits of what the shell is capable of doing. I have tested the 5's at 50 yards and 30% of the pellets penetrated all the way through. The 6's had less then 5% penetrate. The HTL loads definitely do penetrate better at longer distances but they don't hold a candle to the patterns the longbeards are giving in my opinion. That is why as turkey hunters and sportsmen it is our job to know what the tools we carry are capable of doing. That being said I have switched from Hevi shot mag blend this year to the longbeards I know at 45 yards(a reasonable shot)my gun is going to kill the bird without questions from my gun. Part of the joy of hunting these elusive birds is the fact of getting inside there comfort zone and watching them work!!


I shoot Mag Blends, but am contemplating switching. I can get twice as many shells for the same price.

BTW you need to change your signature line if you switched your ammo
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#3626025 - 03/25/14 05:58 PM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Bone Collector]
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 Originally Posted By: Bone Collector
 Originally Posted By: Final steps TC
I get so frustrated year in and year out with companies promoting 55+ yard shots on turkey it makes me sick. That is not an ethical shot in my book what so ever !! I have patterned all kinds of turkeys loads and guns over the years and yes I can hold a good enough pattern at those distances to kill a paper turkey but a real turkey I think not...If you want a real good test take a 1/4 inch marine plywood out at 45 yards and see if it will penetrate through it. I strongly suggest you guys contemplating shooting the Longbeard 6's to due this as yes they will hold a pattern at 50 but in my experience they don't have the energy to penetrate. I see a lot of wounded and disgusted turkey hunters this spring that try to push the limits of what the shell is capable of doing. I have tested the 5's at 50 yards and 30% of the pellets penetrated all the way through. The 6's had less then 5% penetrate. The HTL loads definitely do penetrate better at longer distances but they don't hold a candle to the patterns the longbeards are giving in my opinion. That is why as turkey hunters and sportsmen it is our job to know what the tools we carry are capable of doing. That being said I have switched from Hevi shot mag blend this year to the longbeards I know at 45 yards(a reasonable shot)my gun is going to kill the bird without questions from my gun. Part of the joy of hunting these elusive birds is the fact of getting inside there comfort zone and watching them work!!


I shoot Mag Blends, but am contemplating switching. I can get twice as many shells for the same price.

BTW you need to change your signature line if you switched your ammo

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