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#3625575 - 03/25/14 08:51 AM Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells
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Growing deer tv newest video shows grant woods patterning the longbeard shells out to 70 yards. Ill have to admit its pretty impressive.
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#3625604 - 03/25/14 09:22 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: muddyboots]
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Just what we need.... another company, more people, promoting long shots that result in crippled/lost birds.... as if Hevi-Shot weren't doing a good enough job by themselves.

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#3625609 - 03/25/14 09:27 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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Hes not promoting shooting that far. Hes adamant about that. Hes just showing what the patterns look like . Pretty informative.
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#3625613 - 03/25/14 09:33 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: muddyboots]
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 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
Growing deer tv newest video shows grant woods patterning the longbeard shells out to 70 yards. Ill have to admit its pretty impressive.


 Originally Posted By: muddyboots
Hes not promoting shooting that far. Hes adamant about that. Hes just showing what the patterns look like . Pretty informative.


Whether he is directly or indirectly..... by him even mentioning it and showing it.... he is promoting it. By your first statement "I'll have to admit, it's pretty impressive".... supports my statement. Others will see it and try to copy the results on a live bird.
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#3625629 - 03/25/14 09:50 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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Naw I wont try to copy it. I know what my gun will do.
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#3625674 - 03/25/14 10:37 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: muddyboots]
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Wasn't saying you personally..... this same horse gets beat on every few months.... I know you know and we know.... it's the beginners and most impressionable people I am referring to.
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#3625682 - 03/25/14 10:44 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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I saw the episode also, and was a bit dismayed. I don't know how much energy a lead #6 has at 70 yards but can potentially see a lot of crippled birds getting knocked off their feet only to regain their composure and fly off.

Just because the shell may be able to pattern at a particular distance, if there's not enough energy to break bone way out there, it won't do the job.

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#3625695 - 03/25/14 10:57 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Boll Weevil]
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Im out. I don't trust HTML loads out to that much less lead.
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#3625697 - 03/25/14 11:01 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Boll Weevil]
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[quote=Boll Weevil]I saw the episode also, and was a bit dismayed. I don't know how much energy a lead #6 has at 70 yards but can potentially see a lot of crippled birds getting knocked off their feet only to regain their composure and fly off.

Just because the shell may be able to pattern at a particular distance, if there's not enough energy to break bone way out there, it won't do the job. [/quote

He was using #5's but i agree i don't know regardless of the pattern/shot size, if there is enough energy at 70 yds. That is a long way.

He did say more than once he was not advocating shooting 70 yds and that for long range shots, you need to have optics with some magnification. Unfortunately, the others are right. Someone with little experience will see this and go shoot at a bird at 70 yds with a bead and wound it.
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#3625709 - 03/25/14 11:22 AM Re: Grant Woods and the Longbeard shells [Re: Bone Collector]
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I'd have been more impressed if Dr. Woods had simply shown the 40-yr pattern, and left it at that. No matter how we rationalize the 70-yd thing, he ended up promoting hunters' taking long-range, low-probability shots.

Single pellet in the gut, the bird dies a few days later, unrecovered by the shooter.

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