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#3603953 - 03/01/14 09:16 PM @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees
Hunter 257W
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I've read that Honeylocust trees are good for deer but after spending a day fighting about 4 acres of them with a bush hog and puncturing 3 tractor tires, I'm not feeling very friendly towards them. Surely any small benefit they have for deer is only a short time in the Spring the 1st year a tree is growing. Possibly the 2nd year. Once they get any size one them the thorns make the tree unapproachable. Those thorns make me think that if they have trees in Hell, the Honeylocust would be the species of choice. Do deer really eat the buds from these awful things enough to leave one living???

As I stated, I just bush hogged about 4 acres of them that were growing amongst my planted fruit and oak trees and these honeylocust were in the 2 inch diameter range. My tractor was pulling hard even in 1st gear to grind all that up. I don't think the bush hog will ever be the same again. The shearbolt in the driveshaft was about cut into when I quit and as I said both front tires were full of holes and went flat. One rear tire was spewing water(filled with water for weight).

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#3603968 - 03/01/14 09:27 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hunter 257W]
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they love the pods.
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#3603970 - 03/01/14 09:28 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hunter 257W]
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You are correct, I do believe they are straight from the depths of hell.
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#3603972 - 03/01/14 09:29 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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Deer eat alot of things. Get rid of them while they are small!
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#3604021 - 03/01/14 10:19 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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They are the best tree I have found for using a climber.
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#3604024 - 03/01/14 10:24 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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Agree with Hillbilly Hunter.

They love the pods, but in my experience they will only hit them hard in the early season. The thing about honey locusts is that you don't need many. A mature one will put off a ton of pods and the deer rarely eat them all before they get dry. I seem to always have plenty of pods left over every season.

And YES, they are a huge pain in the rear. Last year, I did the same thing you did - I cleared out 3-4 acres of young honey locusts to create a food plot. Luckily, they did not puncture my tractor tires, but my Ranger was not as lucky.

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#3604027 - 03/01/14 10:25 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
They are the best tree I have found for using a climber.


I'm assuming that is a joke, right?!?! Mine have tons of thorns on them. Aint no way I'd climb one with a climber or a loc on.

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#3604031 - 03/01/14 10:29 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: CAW]
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I found a big shed in a patch of them today. Never really thought much about them until now. May bow hunt over them in October
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#3604036 - 03/01/14 11:06 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: CAW]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: CAW
 Originally Posted By: catman529
They are the best tree I have found for using a climber.


I'm assuming that is a joke, right?!?! Mine have tons of thorns on them. Aint no way I'd climb one with a climber or a loc on.
lol I've seen some wicked nasty ones. Never would put a stand on em. The deer like the seed pods, but that's about it.
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#3604084 - 03/02/14 05:54 AM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: catman529]
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 Originally Posted By: catman529
They are the best tree I have found for using a climber.


Makes me cringe to even think about it, Catman! I've got holes and scratches all over my forearms and legs from yesterday from just driving the tractor through that thicket.

On a positive note, I THINK I saw my very 1st ever woodcock while bush hogging. It flew out from under the tractor and then landed about 20 feet away and ran into some cover.

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#3604087 - 03/02/14 06:08 AM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hunter 257W]
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What I can't understand is where these trees came from. This field had a lot of them in it back when we cleared it out in about 1974 or 1975. Ever since then it has been in either an annual hay crop or beans/corn. In December 2010 I decided to create some wildlife habitat and planted fruit and oak trees in there. Honeylocust came from nowhere and covered it up. I know some seeds will lay dormant for many years but from 1975 to 2010???? That's 35 years?! \:\(
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#3604165 - 03/02/14 07:48 AM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hunter 257W]
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They spread via roots, so poisoning them is a good idea, especially with something that is root active, like imazapyr.

And yes, deer love the pods. But I would prefer just one tree!
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#3604169 - 03/02/14 07:53 AM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Hillbilly Hunter
You are correct, I do believe they are straight from the depths of hell.


They need a sign saying "Tree design by Satan."
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#3604410 - 03/02/14 12:24 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: BSK]
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I have often wonder if that is what they made the crown of thorns out of.
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#3604467 - 03/02/14 01:46 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
I have often wonder if that is what they made the crown of thorns out of.
i believe 100 percent that it was.
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#3604528 - 03/02/14 02:32 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
I have often wonder if that is what they made the crown of thorns out of.
I have thought the same thing. Did the the honey locust grow over there during that time period?
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#3605073 - 03/02/14 09:17 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: catman529]
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I don't know how widespread they are worldwide, but my front tractor tires have several dozen thorns stuck through each tire. When I tried to inflate them out in the field, one tire had so many holes that the air was leaking as fast as I could put it in. The other had to be inflated twice to drive the 1/2 mile back to the house. It's hard to believe a thorn can be so strong to routinely puncture tires.

BSK, I didn't realize they spread by the roots. So it's the few along the fencerow that are the source then rather than long dormant seeds. You can bet I'll be after them with poison from now on. This field was 8 acres with honeylocust so close you could barely walk between them. That's intolerable.

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#3605157 - 03/02/14 10:39 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: Hunter 257W]
catman529
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
I don't know how widespread they are worldwide, but my front tractor tires have several dozen thorns stuck through each tire. When I tried to inflate them out in the field, one tire had so many holes that the air was leaking as fast as I could put it in. The other had to be inflated twice to drive the 1/2 mile back to the house. It's hard to believe a thorn can be so strong to routinely puncture tires.
they are pith-filled, I would not expect them to be so tough on tires, but I guess I can see one going straight in easily as sharp as they are.
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#3605182 - 03/02/14 11:16 PM Re: @#%!!! Honeylocust Trees [Re: catman529]
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a few years ago we did the same went threw 4 four wheeler tires. and 2 tractor tires. and it did some damage to our bush hog to. its good to get them gone we leave a few but we poisoned it big time and so far so good. we did it for the farmer and now he plants corn and beans in it.
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