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#3595149 - 02/20/14 07:49 PM coyote night hunting
dovahkiin
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If enough of us e mail during the public comment period, we might actually get night hunting for coyotes legal. I think it could be done from mid february through early july, during the time when buck deer have no or small antlers. Be sure to email your comments in before sunday.
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#3595208 - 02/20/14 08:35 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: dovahkiin]
dovahkiin
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Or not, have no idea why twra would oppose this so hard. To protect coyotes? Almost to the point of them being rude. Oh well, nevermind gents.
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#3595250 - 02/20/14 09:13 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: dovahkiin]
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 Originally Posted By: dovahkiin
Or not, have no idea why twra would oppose this so hard. To protect coyotes? Almost to the point of them being rude. Oh well, nevermind gents.


Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude. The TWRA forum is set up to answer questions and is not set up for discussion and debate.

There are a lot of law enforcement and safety concerns that I suspect will continue to keep TWRA from supporting night time coyote hunting. The killing of a US Forest Service officer in GA a couple of years ago in a night coyote hunting accident highlights some of the safety issues. It has NOTHING to do with wanting to protect coyotes.
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#3595336 - 02/20/14 10:29 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: scn]
dovahkiin
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Thank you. I just see so many while i am hog hunting at night on my permitt. Thought it might be ok to ask about it. Didnt think they would be anymore danger to it than killing pigs. Of course accidents can happen doing anything. Thanks
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#3595528 - 02/21/14 08:52 AM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: scn]
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 Originally Posted By: scn
 Originally Posted By: dovahkiin
Or not, have no idea why twra would oppose this so hard. To protect coyotes? Almost to the point of them being rude. Oh well, nevermind gents.


Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude. The TWRA forum is set up to answer questions and is not set up for discussion and debate.

There are a lot of law enforcement and safety concerns that I suspect will continue to keep TWRA from supporting night time coyote hunting. The killing of a US Forest Service officer in GA a couple of years ago in a night coyote hunting accident highlights some of the safety issues. It has NOTHING to do with wanting to protect coyotes.


Other state do it with no problems that I know of. I think Tennessee could to. I believe we the hunter get short change in some areas and this is one of them.
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#3596385 - 02/22/14 06:40 AM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: KPH]
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If you do some cking those states have more problems trying to run 24 hrs a day with a limited amount of officers & $ not to mention accidents. TWRA is spread too thin during the day when most sportsman are afield imo. Some folks will make their own rules or no rules & get by with it for years until they are caught or a accident teaches them a life lesson
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#3596408 - 02/22/14 07:37 AM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: mike243]
dovahkiin
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New york? A sad day when new york can hunt in ways that we cant. I can totally understand not doing it when deer would be in danger but in the spring? Any hunting comes with risk. They should ban treestands, going over 20mph in a boat and probably hunting and fishing all together if the argument is that it is dangerous.
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#3596674 - 02/22/14 03:09 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: mike243]
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 Originally Posted By: mike243
If you do some cking those states have more problems trying to run 24 hrs a day with a limited amount of officers & $ not to mention accidents. TWRA is spread too thin during the day when most sportsman are afield imo. Some folks will make their own rules or no rules & get by with it for years until they are caught or a accident teaches them a life lesson

I personally don't think to spread to thin is a valid excuse or accidents. I don't think it would be anymore of a problem for TWRA than anything else they do. I personally think it should be easy for a officer to tell if one is poaching or hunting coyotes.
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#3596867 - 02/22/14 07:21 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: KPH]
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I don't see why they couldn't limit it to shotguns and the size shot used for night hunting them

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#3596882 - 02/22/14 07:36 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: Twinfalls]
dovahkiin
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Season from mid feb. Through july 1st. Problem solved. Even poachers dont poach then.
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#3597236 - 02/23/14 08:28 AM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: dovahkiin]
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Personally I think it would be a good idea and would like to see it become legal. I don't understand the reasoning behind the arguments that it will cost TWRA more money and the safety argument. TWRA already has officers that work at night or are available don't they? So why would they need to increase the number of officers out at night as for the most part law abiding hunters are the same whether its daylight or dark just the same as the ones that break the law. In my opinion putting more law abiding hunters out after dark would seem to make it a little more difficult for the law breakers as they will have to become more sneaky. And as for safety, we should all know about gun safety, that doesn't change after dark. I mean we don't stop driving after dark do we? But there is and always will be a safety issue when hunting whether you as the hunter might fall from a tree stand or run up on a dope head growing or cooking. Just the same for an officer of the law, sneaking up on someone or hiding and waiting on people with guns is just as dangerous in the daylight as in the dark. So if it is a conservation issue then put it out to us.

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#3597754 - 02/23/14 06:51 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: Grill-n-man]
dovahkiin
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 Originally Posted By: Grill-n-man
Personally I think it would be a good idea and would like to see it become legal. I don't understand the reasoning behind the arguments that it will cost TWRA more money and the safety argument. TWRA already has officers that work at night or are available don't they? So why would they need to increase the number of officers out at night as for the most part law abiding hunters are the same whether its daylight or dark just the same as the ones that break the law. In my opinion putting more law abiding hunters out after dark would seem to make it a little more difficult for the law breakers as they will have to become more sneaky. And as for safety, we should all know about gun safety, that doesn't change after dark. I mean we don't stop driving after dark do we? But there is and always will be a safety issue when hunting whether you as the hunter might fall from a tree stand or run up on a dope head growing or cooking. Just the same for an officer of the law, sneaking up on someone or hiding and waiting on people with guns is just as dangerous in the daylight as in the dark. So if it is a conservation issue then put it out to us.
i agree

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#3600057 - 02/26/14 05:02 AM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: dovahkiin]
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 Originally Posted By: dovahkiin
Season from mid feb. Through july 1st. Problem solved. Even poachers dont poach then.


They do in my neck of the state. Year round opportunists. \:\/
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#3613053 - 03/11/14 12:17 PM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: dovahkiin]
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hope it becomes legal
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#3629668 - 03/29/14 09:06 AM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: rrhoghead]
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The biggest hurdle is changing status quo... We don't do it now, so we shouldn't do it in the future. A big reason night hunting for coyotes gets the thumbs down from TWRA is that people will hear gunfire at night and call to report it. That's why the Agency uses silencers at night to shoot deer when collecting deer for APC work during the summer. One way to fix this issue is to have all night hunters call in and get a clearance number much like a burn permit. If any numbers are issued for an area the dispatcher will be able to tell callers what's going on. No officer would have to be sent to in investigate.

If the logic was followed that night hunting is more dangerous for officers, then coon hunting should be banned. Many more officers are injured or killed during daylight hours than dark, so, statistically it doesn't hold water either.
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#3655675 - 04/26/14 04:57 AM Re: coyote night hunting [Re: jaybird62]
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I don't see a safety issue - at least from a private land standpoint. I also don't understand why TWRA needs more man hours, just because someone is shooting dogs at night. I don't care much for the permit idea either, unless it is for public land (maybe). It seems that way too many of the game laws are not for safety or ecology, but to make enforcement easier. Maybe, as a private land owner in a remote area, I am just not aware of a lot of the problems that exist out there?
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