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#3594764 - 02/20/14 02:24 PM Media blackout - Holder impeachment
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Has anyone noticed that there is a Resolution [1] in the U.S. House of Representatives (H.Res.411) to impeach Eric H. Holder, Jr., Attorney General of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors?

November 14, 2013, Rep. Pete (R-22-TX) officially introduced Articles of Impeachment against Holder, which had nineteen co-sponsors who are: Rep. Lynn R Westmoreland (R-3-GA), Rep. Larry Bucshon (R-8-IN), Rep. Roger Williams (R-25-TX), Rep. Ted Yoho ((R-3-FL), Rep. Randy Weber (R-14-TX), Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-27-TX), Rep. Bill Flores (R-17-TX), Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-6-MN), Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-1-TX), Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-50-CA), Rep. Mark Amodei (R-2-NV), Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-3-SC), Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-1-OK), Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-4-IN), Rep. Sam Johnson (R-3-TX), Rep. Steve Stockman (R-36-TX), Rep. K. Mitchell Conaway (R-11-TX), Rep. Phil Roe (R-1-TN), and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-4-KY).

There are four Articles of Impeachment.

Article I concerns Holder’s refusing to comply with a congressional subpoena regarding the Operation Fast and Furious investigation by Congress.

Article II concerns Holder’s refusal to enforce certain U.S. laws including: the Defense of Marriage Act, the Controlled Substances Act, and the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986.

Article III concerns Holder’s failure to prosecute individuals involved in the Internal Revenue scandal regarding tax records belonging to political donors.

Article IV concerns Holder’s testifying under oath that he neither was involved in nor had heard of a potential prosecution of the press. Whereas three days later, the Dept. of Justice released documents naming journalist James Rosen as a co-conspirator in an alleged violation of the Espionage Act. Furthermore, in a later letter to the House Committee on the Judiciary, Holder confirmed he approved of a search warrant on James Rosen.



Apparently, there seems to be a media blackout regarding the actions taken by Republican members of Congress to impeach Attorney General Holder. Also, doesn’t something seem to be amiss, i.e., why hasn’t a hearing been scheduled on those impeachment charges? Furthermore, shouldn’t a question be asked as to why House Speaker John Boehner (R-8-OH) hasn’t called for or scheduled the impeachment hearing?

The 113th Congress seems to be a do-nothing Congress. No wonder recent Rasmussen Reports reveal that only 8 % of voters think Congress is doing a good job, while 66 percent say Congress is doing poorly. Furthermore, “59% of voters believe most members of Congress are willing to sell their vote for cash or campaign contributions. Just 14% do not. Twenty-seven percent (27%) are not sure.” Moreover, “Democrats rate Congress' performance even more negatively than Republicans and unaffiliated voters do.” [2]

Another politician, who apparently wants to “go it alone” in lawmaking and also needs some serious vetting, is discussed in this extraordinary profile and commentary by Wayne Allyn Root: http://personalliberty.com/2014/02/20/is-obama-accelerating-the-collapse-of-america/ .

When will Washington’s gridlock end? When will taxpayers, voters, citizens—whatever we want to call ourselves—wake up to what’s going on in the USA? We need to get scofflaws out of office no matter which office they occupy or how high up that office happens to be. Isn’t it time to get back to rule of law, not the apparent ‘legal’ hijinks that go on more and more, day by day? Where will this entire political fiasco end, but even more so, when?


http://www.activistpost.com/2014/02/whos-trying-to-impeach-attorney-general.html
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#3594801 - 02/20/14 02:58 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Crappie Luck]
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Obama's FCC government monitors WILL make sure it NEVER makes the MSM news.
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#3594940 - 02/20/14 04:39 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Wildcat]
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Without a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate, this whole thing is a waste of time. Even if the House votes to impeach, it is up to the Senate to convict. I'm not one to give the MSM a pass, but I don't see this as newsworthy.
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#3595004 - 02/20/14 06:08 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Bambi Buster]
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but without the media on it, there is no chance for a populous response and demand impeachment.

I promise you, that without a loud civilian voice, even a GOP majority will not have the B**** to do anything about it.
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#3595055 - 02/20/14 06:37 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Crappie Luck]
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I read something a few days ago that Holder was resigning. Not sure if it has anything to do with this.

Could be wrong, didn't have time to read it thoroughly and forgot about it 'til now.....

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#3595152 - 02/20/14 07:52 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: preds1]
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Get a rope.
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#3595331 - 02/20/14 10:22 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Crappie Luck]
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 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
but without the media on it, there is no chance for a populous response and demand impeachment.

I promise you, that without a loud civilian voice, even a GOP majority will not have the B**** to do anything about it.



We still have, for the moment anyway, a free press. If there is such a large potential audience for truth in the media, one would think there would be such a media outlet. It's not like there aren't at least some conservatives with the $$$$ it would take to bankroll it.

I have doubts that there is a large enough conservative populist movement to make it viable. Rush and Hannity do just fine, but their audiences are as big as they're ever going to be. The results of the last two presidential elections provide ample evidence of that.
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#3595397 - 02/21/14 06:04 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Bambi Buster]
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That is far to realistic for my morning coffee. I need more unicorns and happy endings this early.

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#3595435 - 02/21/14 07:01 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
but without the media on it, there is no chance for a populous response and demand impeachment.

I promise you, that without a loud civilian voice, even a GOP majority will not have the B**** to do anything about it.



We still have, for the moment anyway, a free press. If there is such a large potential audience for truth in the media, one would think there would be such a media outlet. It's not like there aren't at least some conservatives with the $$$$ it would take to bankroll it.

I have doubts that there is a large enough conservative populist movement to make it viable. Rush and Hannity do just fine, but their audiences are as big as they're ever going to be. The results of the last two presidential elections provide ample evidence of that.


I disagree. If you are told your entire life that the world is flat, how do you even know that you are being fed misinformation?

Once you discover that you have been lied to and manipulated systematically since birth, the market will develop and IS developing.

Our young adults and teens are becoming VERY repulsed with the realities they are facing. THAT is the next tidal wave of conservative thinking. It will take a while to mature, learn, and develop but the lies of progressivism and liberalism are ringing hollow among young adults.

Give them a source of quality information that is easy to access and digest and it will become popular. Look at fox. They do a fair job and ratings are more than DOUBLE that of the next closest competitor.

IMO Fox appeals to conservatives because that is the ONLY MSM outlet with even the slightest conservative bent. It is NOT a pure conservative outlet. Horribaldo has a show on there for crying out loud.

People are waking up and beginning to search for honest information. That is why the MSM propaganda outlets ratings are in the tank and internet news sources are taking off.
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#3595440 - 02/21/14 07:05 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: fishboy1]
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
but without the media on it, there is no chance for a populous response and demand impeachment.

I promise you, that without a loud civilian voice, even a GOP majority will not have the B**** to do anything about it.



We still have, for the moment anyway, a free press. If there is such a large potential audience for truth in the media, one would think there would be such a media outlet. It's not like there aren't at least some conservatives with the $$$$ it would take to bankroll it.

I have doubts that there is a large enough conservative populist movement to make it viable. Rush and Hannity do just fine, but their audiences are as big as they're ever going to be. The results of the last two presidential elections provide ample evidence of that.


I disagree. If you are told your entire life that the world is flat, how do you even know that you are being fed misinformation?

Once you discover that you have been lied to and manipulated systematically since birth, the market will develop and IS developing.

Our young adults and teens are becoming VERY repulsed with the realities they are facing. THAT is the next tidal wave of conservative thinking. It will take a while to mature, learn, and develop but the lies of progressivism and liberalism are ringing hollow among young adults.

Give them a source of quality information that is easy to access and digest and it will become popular. Look at fox. They do a fair job and ratings are more than DOUBLE that of the next closest competitor.

IMO Fox appeals to conservatives because that is the ONLY MSM outlet with even the slightest conservative bent. It is NOT a pure conservative outlet. Horribaldo has a show on there for crying out loud.

People are waking up and beginning to search for honest information. That is why the MSM propaganda outlets ratings are in the tank and internet news sources are taking off.


THAT is the very reason Obama wants to put monitors in newsrooms, to keep that from happening. That's what they did in Germany in the 1930's.
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#3595441 - 02/21/14 07:07 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: fishboy1]
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People are waking up and beginning to search for honest information. That is why the MSM propaganda outlets ratings are in the tank and internet news sources are taking off.


IMO, that is also why there is this push to FORCE more liberal coverage.

Why else would ONE channel that doesn't coward to the administration bring on such wrath of the FCC and Obama?
He obsessed with blaming Fox for his troubles on the O'Reilly interview.

Facts are inconvenient. That must be stopped.
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#3595529 - 02/21/14 08:53 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: preds1]
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 Originally Posted By: preds1
I read something a few days ago that Holder was resigning. Not sure if it has anything to do with this.

Could be wrong, didn't have time to read it thoroughly and forgot about it 'til now.....


Well, that’s the report:

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder will step down this year, he said in an interview with the New Yorker’s Jeffrey Toobin in the magazine’s Feb. 17 edition.

In a feature article, Mr. Holder said he plans on staying in his position “well into” the year.




Yeah, I probably wouldn’t want to be a Democratic executive branch official right now, either. More accurately: I wouldn’t want to be a Democratic executive branch official next year. Senate investigating committees traditionally have very little in the way of senses of humor when it comes to incompetent bureaucrats getting our law enforcement personnel killed; and it’s highly likely that the next Senate Majority Leader will find it, ah, convenient to revive that particular tradition. Best to bail now.


PS: Yeah, I figure that Eric Holder and Valerie Jarrett are both on the Presidential pardon short list. I also figure that it’s a short list, mostly because I don’t really think that Barack Obama really ‘gets’ this entire loyalty thing…

http://www.redstate.com/2014/02/11/eric-holder-resigning-attorney-general/

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#3595596 - 02/21/14 09:46 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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Get a rope.


and then get 534 more ropes.
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#3596138 - 02/21/14 07:41 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Rebel]
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The Blaze is doing a fantastic job also if you get stomach all of the ads.

And I agree Rebel, we need more rope.
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#3596327 - 02/21/14 11:19 PM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: preds1]
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 Originally Posted By: preds1

...Senate investigating committees traditionally have very little in the way of senses of humor when it comes to incompetent bureaucrats getting our law enforcement personnel killed; and it’s highly likely that the next Senate Majority Leader will find it, ah, convenient to revive that particular tradition...



I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see a new Senate Majority Leader on the horizon any time soon.
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#3599036 - 02/25/14 05:58 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Wildcat]
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Must be a total blackout. Wonder what the latest is?
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#3599051 - 02/25/14 06:29 AM Re: Media blackout - Holder impeachment [Re: Hawk]
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I did hear something about potential replacements for Holder on Fox last night but zero discussion about why he's stepping down and exactly when.
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