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#3597098 - 02/22/14 11:49 PM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: buckaroo]
redblood
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 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
In my lifetime I would vote Reagan and Clinton as my 2 favorite presidents, the rest have been blah!




clinton? are u serious?
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#3597099 - 02/22/14 11:50 PM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: Wildcat]
redblood
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
No president was perfect , even every coservatives favorite raised taxes more than you would like to admit


A president CANNOT raise taxes, only Congress can. The DEMOCRAT controlled Congress raised the taxes and Reagan had to sign them. They did the same thing to Bush after he said, read my lips, no new taxes. The DEMOCRAT controlled Congress again raised taxes and blamed Bush for it.




yep. that is a fax. it is not in a presidents power to raise taxes
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#3597133 - 02/23/14 03:35 AM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: buckaroo]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
He was a pretty good president, the economy has"nt been that good since , dont care Miley. Lol


built on a housing industry bubble that was destined to burst and cause a lot of the economic problems.
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#3597173 - 02/23/14 07:07 AM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: stik]
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So who is really to blame for Obama care , congress?
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#3597194 - 02/23/14 07:37 AM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: buckaroo]
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 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
So who is really to blame for Obama care , congress?


You really need to read history and govt and not just s few sound bits.

Reagan, Bush, JFK, Obama and all of them put certain bills before Congress then members of Congress bring them in as a bill to be debated and voted on.

Obama put ObamaCare to Congress. At the time the DEMOCRATS held a SUPER MAJORITY IN BOTH Houses. The DEMOCRATS put the bill together behind CLOSED LOCKRD DOORS, the DEMOCRATS voted to pass it WITHOUT debate and NOT ONE REPUBLICAN voted for it, not one. The DEMOCRATS own Obamacare 100%.

By the way want to guess the ONLY US President to call for a tax cut on the rich?? It was JFK and after he died they passed it.
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#3597302 - 02/23/14 09:18 AM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: Wildcat]
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 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
By the way want to guess the ONLY US President to call for a tax cut on the rich?? It was JFK and after he died they passed it.


I'm not sure that's an accurate statement.

Ronald Reagan lead an effort to cut income taxes twice, which ended up lowering the top income tax rate on the "rich" from an absolutely ridiculous level of 70% down to 28%.

Congressional Democrats then forced George H. W. Bush to raise the top income tax rate from 28% to 31%.

Clinton and Congressional Democrats then raised the top income tax rate from 31% to 39.6%.

The "Bush tax cuts" lowered the top income tax rate from 39.6% down to 35%.

Obama and Congressional Democrats then raised the top income tax rate back to 39.6%.
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#3597308 - 02/23/14 09:21 AM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: buckaroo]
Vermin93
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 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
So who is really to blame for Obama care , congress?


Great question. Democrats are 100% to blame. Not a single Republican voted for it. That is why I'm on a crusade to change the name from Obamacare to Democratcare.

Details here:

We need to stop calling it "Obamacare"
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#3597313 - 02/23/14 09:33 AM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: Vermin93]
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 Originally Posted By: Vermin93
 Originally Posted By: Wildcat
By the way want to guess the ONLY US President to call for a tax cut on the rich?? It was JFK and after he died they passed it.


I'm not sure that's an accurate statement.

Ronald Reagan lead an effort to cut income taxes twice, which ended up lowering the top income tax rate on the "rich" from an absolutely ridiculous level of 70% down to 28%.

Congressional Democrats then forced George H. W. Bush to raise the top income tax rate from 28% to 31%.

Clinton and Congressional Democrats then raised the top income tax rate from 31% to 39.6%.

The "Bush tax cuts" lowered the top income tax rate from 39.6% down to 35%.

Obama and Congressional Democrats then raised the top income tax rate back to 39.6%.


Reagan and Bush cut taxes for EVERYBODY.

JFK asked for a tax cut on the rich only but he was killed before a bill could pass Congress, a different bill came up with more tax cuts for others as well as the rich the next year to take it's place and was passed. They called that one the JFK tax cut bill when it should have been the Johnson tax cut bill since it was much different than JFK wanted.
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#3597772 - 02/23/14 07:19 PM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: Bambi Buster]
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
In my lifetime I would vote Reagan and Clinton as my 2 favorite presidents, the rest have been blah!


bill Clinton is the reason the housing industry collapsed.


And China, North Korean and Iran having nukes.


China detonated its first nuke 50 years ago come October. As much as I love to hate Clinton, I don't think we can blame him for that one.

No, but he did give China the technology to drastically improve missile accuracy, which increases those nukes' deadliness.
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#3597856 - 02/23/14 08:44 PM Re: What Bush Misses About Being President [Re: BMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BMan
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Crappie Luck
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: buckaroo
In my lifetime I would vote Reagan and Clinton as my 2 favorite presidents, the rest have been blah!


bill Clinton is the reason the housing industry collapsed.


And China, North Korean and Iran having nukes.


China detonated its first nuke 50 years ago come October. As much as I love to hate Clinton, I don't think we can blame him for that one.

No, but he did give China the technology to drastically improve missile accuracy, which increases those nukes' deadliness.



Indeed he did; one of a great many things for which he deserves to burn in hell, but giving China Nukes was not one of them. I suppose we could attribute that one to JKF and LBJ. Truman and to a lesser degree, Eisenhower, were not entirely without guilt in that regard either.
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