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#3578972 - 02/07/14 01:44 PM another frost seeding question
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Didn't want to hijack the other post. I've got a couple of fields i had in turnips everything has been wiped out. I've never done a spring plot much less frost seeded anything. I picked up a couple bags of chicory/ clover mix pretty cheap. Will it hurt the chicory to be frost seeded? Should i wait or can i go ahead and spread the seed? Thanks
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#3578982 - 02/07/14 01:51 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Savage Knight]
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I've actually never frost seeded chicory but the only thing I can think of is it doesn't have as hard a seed coat as clover; I wonder if it would be more prone to rot before it's warm enough to germinate. Chicory is also somewhat bigger than clover seed too so might be more visible to tweety birds as long as it sits atop the ground.
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#3578997 - 02/07/14 01:59 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Boll Weevil]
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Well when should the clover be done? Would it be ok to go ahead and spread it? I can gamble on the chicory, they don't seem to touch it anyway.
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#3579017 - 02/07/14 02:17 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Savage Knight]
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Yep, now is certainly fine for clover.
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#3579136 - 02/07/14 04:03 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Boll Weevil]
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I read a post on QDMA a while back that said you can frost seed chicory. I was considering it this year myself.
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#3579137 - 02/07/14 04:04 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Savage Knight]
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 Originally Posted By: Savage Knight
Didn't want to hijack the other post. I've got a couple of fields i had in turnips everything has been wiped out. I've never done a spring plot much less frost seeded anything. I picked up a couple bags of chicory/ clover mix pretty cheap. Will it hurt the chicory to be frost seeded? Should i wait or can i go ahead and spread the seed? Thanks


Where did you find the chic/clover mix?

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#3579200 - 02/07/14 04:56 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: drrxnupe]
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QDMA link

http://www.qdma.com/articles/how-to-frost-seed-food-plots
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#3584306 - 02/11/14 09:34 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: A.Hall]
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The Whitetail Institute shows a planting date of Feb 1 - Apr 15 for Chicory. I put out about 1/2 acre of it mixed with clover last Saturday.
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#3585589 - 02/12/14 09:41 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Let's say I miss the freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw period for frost seeding by a week..can I throw clover seed on unplowed ground and run my cultipacker?

I'm asking because it may be the first week in March before I can make it back down to the farm. By then I'm afraid that the freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw phase will be done for the year.

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#3585646 - 02/12/14 10:51 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: drrxnupe]
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 Originally Posted By: drrxnupe
Let's say I miss the freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw period for frost seeding by a week..can I throw clover seed on unplowed ground and run my cultipacker?

I'm asking because it may be the first week in March before I can make it back down to the farm. By then I'm afraid that the freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw phase will be done for the year.




If the ground has enough actual bare dirt that the seeds can contact, then the cultipacker will do the job at least as well as frost ever can.

Just be honest about how much bare dirt you really have or you'll be wasting money and work if the seeds can't contact the soil.

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#3592223 - 02/18/14 01:14 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Seeding 500# of clover today.
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#3593327 - 02/19/14 10:18 AM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: tellico4x4]
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500 lbs?!? That's a lot of ground!
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#3593469 - 02/19/14 12:22 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Hunter 257W]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
500 lbs?!? That's a lot of ground!

Either that or it's gonna grow reeeaaaaallllly good in that one spot.

I overseeded a few spots last weekend that seemed a little thin. This warmer reather and rain...the established stuff should start springing back very soon.

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#3593614 - 02/19/14 03:04 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Hunter 257W]
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Is it worth it to frost seed crimson clover?
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#3593616 - 02/19/14 03:04 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: Boll Weevil]
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 Originally Posted By: Hunter 257W
500 lbs?!? That's a lot of ground!



about 40 acres in 37 plots


Edited by tellico4x4 (02/19/14 03:11 PM)
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#3593621 - 02/19/14 03:08 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: drrxnupe]
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 Originally Posted By: drrxnupe
Is it worth it to frost seed crimson clover?


Will find out in a couple of months. Our mix was Advantage Landino, Yucchi Arrowleaf & Crimson.

Usually do it in fall and it does great. Schedule just didn't allow it this past year.
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#3593636 - 02/19/14 03:27 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: tellico4x4]
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 Originally Posted By: tellico4x4
 Originally Posted By: drrxnupe
Is it worth it to frost seed crimson clover?


Will find out in a couple of months. Our mix was Advantage Landino, Yucchi Arrowleaf & Crimson.

Usually do it in fall and it does great. Schedule just didn't allow it this past year.


Cool. I just ordered 25# of Regal ladino, 25# of chicory, and 25# of medium red. I'm hoping to broadcast it in my 1st year clover/grain/brassica plots (~5-6 acres) during 1st weekend in March. More than likely I will miss the freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw cycle so I going to run my cultipacker over it to make sure I get good soil contact.


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#3594474 - 02/20/14 09:31 AM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: drrxnupe]
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You might want to consider adding some Yucchi Arrowleaf to the mix. It'll come on strong about the time the Crimson starts to die off. Depending on heat of summer, it usually lasts until late June or early July. When it turns brown, we mow it to about a foot tall, and always have a good stand of Landino under it. I think that the Arroweaf acts as a type of nurse crop for the Landino as it provides shade from hot sun.

Pic was taken in June and the Arrowleaf lasted until mid July last year with all the rain we had.


Plot 20 Clover June 2013 by Bullet Hunting Club, on Flickr


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#3599494 - 02/25/14 02:55 PM Re: another frost seeding question [Re: tellico4x4]
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That food plot makes me wish I were a deer, Tellico4x4. \:\) Good healthy looking plants there!
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