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#3581047 - 02/09/14 10:18 AM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: KENBOB10]
BMan
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 Originally Posted By: KENBOB10
 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
I'll shoot the first bigfoot, or big cat I see. You can't get in trouble for shooting something that you think is putting your life or well-being in danger. ...I suppose it could get dicey if it turned out be some idiot in a costume though.


Lol, you think?

If some idiot is out in the woods in a bigfoot costume, he pretty much needs to be culled from the herd anyway.
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#3581048 - 02/09/14 10:19 AM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: BMan]
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 Originally Posted By: BMan
 Originally Posted By: KENBOB10
 Originally Posted By: BamaProud
I'll shoot the first bigfoot, or big cat I see. You can't get in trouble for shooting something that you think is putting your life or well-being in danger. ...I suppose it could get dicey if it turned out be some idiot in a costume though.


Lol, you think?

If some idiot is out in the woods in a bigfoot costume, he pretty much needs to be culled from the herd anyway.


\:D
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#3581108 - 02/09/14 11:13 AM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: KENBOB10]
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Im shooting the next black panther I see on my place.
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#3581300 - 02/09/14 02:55 PM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: diamond hunter]
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Let it walk
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#3581352 - 02/09/14 03:35 PM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: Gonefishing2]
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I have yet to hear one good reason why to kill it and a lot of disregard for wildlife laws. I also can't believe how many hunters on here are afraid to walk in the woods. I am much more afraid of walking into a person in the woods than any wild animal. I for one, would love to see the return of cougars to Tennessee. Talk about a return of a healthy ecosystem.

And yes we want proof of a cougar (not a carcass). Unfortunately we have little evidence of their existence in our state.
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#3581356 - 02/09/14 03:39 PM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: BigGameGuy]
in the dog house!
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
I have yet to hear one good reason why to kill it. I also can't believe how many hunters on here are afraid to walk in the woods. I am much more afraid of walking into a person in the woods than any wild animal. I for one, would love to see the return of cougars to Tennessee. Talk about a return of a healthy ecosystem.

And yes we want proof of a cougar (not a carcass). Unfortunately we have little evidence of their existence in our state.



Unfortunately the only "proof" that would stand up to anyone would in fact have to be a carcass or either to trap one. Photos would never be taken seriously with all the tool available to edit pics.
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#3581357 - 02/09/14 03:40 PM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: BigGameGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy


And yes we want proof of a cougar (not a carcass). Unfortunately we have little evidence of their existence in our state.


other than a carcass, what could possibly be irrefutable evidence?
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#3581400 - 02/09/14 04:34 PM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: stik]
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A clear picture of a cougar would work perfect. Almost all of the documented cases of cougars in the southern boot of Missouri are trail camera pictures. They show a clear picture of the cat and the location can be substantiated by going back to where the picture was taken. I personally cannot wait until we get one of those Tennessee. Unfortunately, no one has given us one yet.
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#3581409 - 02/09/14 04:45 PM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: BigGameGuy]
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I'd shoot one. Bigfoot too
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#3581488 - 02/09/14 05:36 PM Re: Would you shoot a big cat if you saw it? [Re: Benelli 4 Life]
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Just to add a little reality into this discussion, here is the most likely way it will go down if you shoot a cougar:

If the word gets out, it will be investigated since it is a closed season and endangered species issue. If it is determined that it is a wild cougar and not an escaped/released cougar, then absent of very compelling evidence that it was a self-defense issue, it will be given to a United States Attorney for presecution in federal court. Like Anthony said, absent of claw marks or a frontal shot showing a very close range confrontation, the "I was scared of it" excuse will not get you out of prosecution.

The decision to go forward with prosecution has already been made at the highest levels of the USFWS due to the endangered florida cougar. Their historical range drifts up into TN.

Once you get to federal court, you are looking at attorney fees that I have been told will start in the $5-10,000 range. If the trial is very time consuming, the fees will move upward from there.

If you are found guilty in federal court, there are very substantial fines and jail time for violation of the ESA. Your trip to court will be nothing like a slap on the wrist in your county court.

I have very little doubt that we have some cougars that are out there or range through TN occassionally. I have friends that have seen one in two separate areas of the state over the years. Whether or not they were a released pet or a wild one ranging through could not be determined. From the locations of the sightings, my bet would be released pets, but who knows. My gut feeling is we do not have any breeding populations in the state.

Like BGG said, some clear pictures, or preserved tracks or scat is a MUCH better alternative in proving their presence than gunning one down. The gunning scenario very likely could prove to be a VERY expensive proposition.
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