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#3545116 - 01/13/14 05:31 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: outdoors crazy]
UTGrad
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 Originally Posted By: outdoors crazy
You guys make me think I need to hang my bow up! I will honestly admit that I don't have a clue about tuning nothing. I have shot a bow all my life but have never tried to fix anything on my own. Like UTGrad said as long as its grouping its good right?! Maybe it's the fear of messing up the only bow I have and the fact that I don't have someone with the know-how to show me. But hey, if it weren't for guys like me what else would you do with all your dandy tools?!


I used to think "if its grouping it must be good" but now I am not happy till I can bareshaft tune at 20 yards. Straight arrow flight is what I'm after first.

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#3545123 - 01/13/14 05:36 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: UTGrad]
UTGrad
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For example I had a Z7 that literally tore a 3" left tear in paper at 10 ft. I was told to "step back and shoot again". At 10 yards there was a bullet hole. I assumed I was tuned. What actually was happening was at 10 yards the Fletching had corrected the nock left arrow flight but it was severely fish tailing. Had I been able to step back another 5 yards in this shop I would have seen a right tear. I could group with field points but screw on a broadhead and I could see the fish tailing in flight. The bow wasn't tuned.
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#3545129 - 01/13/14 05:39 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: outdoors crazy]
TNDeerGuy
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 Originally Posted By: outdoors crazy
You guys make me think I need to hang my bow up! I will honestly admit that I don't have a clue about tuning nothing. I have shot a bow all my life but have never tried to fix anything on my own. Like UTGrad said as long as its grouping its good right?! Maybe it's the fear of messing up the only bow I have and the fact that I don't have someone with the know-how to show me. But hey, if it weren't for guys like me what else would you do with all your dandy tools?!


You've already done the hardest part...admitting you're clueless. There are numerous places on-line to get info—some good and some bad. The best thing to do is just ask if it is something you're wanting to know. Or get with someone that is willing to show you want you to know—there are several of us in your area that could probably do that.

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#3545140 - 01/13/14 05:46 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: TNDeerGuy]
UTGrad
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I learned a lot from the Easton Tuning Guide. I now have it saved in my IBooks on my phone and still reference it.

http://www.eastonarchery.com/img/downloads/software/tuning_guide.pdf


Edited by UTGrad (01/13/14 05:47 PM)

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#3545155 - 01/13/14 05:51 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: UTGrad]
TNDeerGuy
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another good one is this...

http://archeryhistory.com/archerytalk/The_Nuts&Bolts_of_Archery.pdf

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#3545165 - 01/13/14 05:56 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: TNDeerGuy]
UTGrad
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 Originally Posted By: TNDeerGuy


Yep that's a good one. Nuts and Bolts (Alan) has helped me a bunch. He had me shooting a string in my garage from 5ft to determine correct draw length lol

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#3545274 - 01/13/14 06:52 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: UTGrad]
Pinwheeled
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
 Originally Posted By: outdoors crazy
You guys make me think I need to hang my bow up! I will honestly admit that I don't have a clue about tuning nothing. I have shot a bow all my life but have never tried to fix anything on my own. Like UTGrad said as long as its grouping its good right?! Maybe it's the fear of messing up the only bow I have and the fact that I don't have someone with the know-how to show me. But hey, if it weren't for guys like me what else would you do with all your dandy tools?!



I used to think "if its grouping it must be good" but now I am not happy till I can bareshaft tune at 20 yards. Straight arrow flight is what I'm after first.


I used to assume the same when I first got started. It's amazing how far out of tune a bow can be and still "group" great.

I also bareshaft tune nowadays. It really doesn't get any more precise. I've done it out to 40 before but I'm content with 25-30. Farther than that, I'm just not good enough. However if bare shafts are flying good at 30, I'd bet good money that any fixed blade I put on the end of my arrow will do the same.


Edited by Pinwheeled (01/13/14 06:55 PM)

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#3545359 - 01/13/14 07:34 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: Pinwheeled]
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I've quit shooting bare shafts at 40. Any small twitch of the wrist will send that sucker flying into oblivion. Got tired of losing good bare shafts. If I was dead perfect I could get a bare shaft to hit within a pie plate of fletched at 40.
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#3545379 - 01/13/14 07:49 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: UTGrad]
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
For example I had a Z7 that literally tore a 3" left tear in paper at 10 ft. I was told to "step back and shoot again". At 10 yards there was a bullet hole. I assumed I was tuned. What actually was happening was at 10 yards the Fletching had corrected the nock left arrow flight but it was severely fish tailing. Had I been able to step back another 5 yards in this shop I would have seen a right tear. I could group with field points but screw on a broadhead and I could see the fish tailing in flight. The bow wasn't tuned.


If you want a good tear walk the shooter right up against the paper to shoot. Then as you move back from the paper you'll see what the tear really look like. At some point, far enough back from the paper the fletching will correct the arrow flight and minimize the effect on the tear!

Get a Bitzenberger jig for fletching!!!
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#3545408 - 01/13/14 08:04 PM Re: Don't Sweat the Small Stuff........Really? [Re: DixieCrafter]
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I sold my Bitz & went with the Bohning Helix. I like it a lot better for blazers. I decided a long time ago that it was obvious I knew more about tuning a bow than the guys in the shops I'd been in. Got a press & a jig and never looked back. It's a great feeling not having to rely on someone, especially an incompetent someone.
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