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#3543141 - 01/12/14 01:11 PM Do you wash/rinse game meat?
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I was talking to a guy this weekend and he was telling me how he always rinses game meat 3x before freezing or eating. I asked "why" and he had no real answer. I mentioned that fresh meat should have no bacteria on it and, any bacteria it does have is on the surface and destroyed when cooking.

This got me to thinking. With the exception of gut shot animals, which tend to require a rinsing of some sort to get intestinal matter off the meat, do you rinse your meat before eating or freezing. Why or why not?
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#3543145 - 01/12/14 01:17 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Poser]
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Not the clean stuff, no. If there's excessive anything on there I'll either cut it off or rinse it quickly then paper towel it off.
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#3543148 - 01/12/14 01:19 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Poser]
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No way! Not unless I dropped it in the dirt or on the floor.

Same goes with fish. No water on my filets unless they somehow get dirty.


Edited by Vermin93 (01/12/14 02:38 PM)
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#3543215 - 01/12/14 02:16 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Vermin93]
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No rinsing. Cut blood shot stuff away and pretty much that's it in terms of possible contamination. I don't even like rinsing the body cavity.

Cleaned a gut shot deer once.....some of that got rinsed pretty good.

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#3543225 - 01/12/14 02:27 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: DaveB]
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NO!!!!!

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#3543239 - 01/12/14 02:46 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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Don't think it makes a difference on way or the other. Usually I will if there is hair or something.
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#3543272 - 01/12/14 03:26 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: JMcB]
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 Originally Posted By: JMcB
Don't think it makes a difference on way or the other. Usually I will if there is hair or something.


I think it can make a differance. If you freeze sloppy, wet meat, it's going to be more prone to frost and freezer burn. Sloppy wet meat can also cook different, depending on cooking technique.


Edited by Poser (01/12/14 03:49 PM)
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#3543288 - 01/12/14 03:36 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Poser]
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Then don't freeze sloppy wet meat and dry it before cooking.
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#3543295 - 01/12/14 03:41 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Trapper John]
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 Originally Posted By: Trapper John
Not the clean stuff, no. If there's excessive anything on there I'll either cut it off or rinse it quickly then paper towel it off.


I do this too.
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#3543305 - 01/12/14 03:46 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Pic IN the Casa]
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 Originally Posted By: Pic IN the Casa
 Originally Posted By: Trapper John
Not the clean stuff, no. If there's excessive anything on there I'll either cut it off or rinse it quickly then paper towel it off.


I do this too.


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#3543308 - 01/12/14 03:50 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: JMcB]
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 Originally Posted By: JMcB
Then don't freeze sloppy wet meat and dry it before cooking.


I don't, but the point of the post is to fine out who does what and why. /really curious about strong opinions one way or the other.
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#3543332 - 01/12/14 04:05 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Poser]
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I carry water in the truck to wash up with when gutting. I wash the blood from the cavity and the hams. If need be, I'll put a bag of ice inside the cavity and 1 between the hams. When butchering, if there are blood pockets on the ham or shoulder, I'll clean them in the sink and rinse. Usually do not wash back strap. But I don't think it is necessary to wash clean game meat before eating.
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#3543652 - 01/12/14 07:13 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Poser]
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Nearly always, yes. Store-bought meat always gets rinsed because it's been sitting in God-knows-what for God-knows-how long. Vacuum packaged meats (large tenderloins in particular) have the red juice in there that leaches out. I rinse that off. Wild game still can have hair, dirt, or other contaminants on there….depending on conditions when you butcher the meat. Birds need to have their body cavities rinsed out. So basically, there is appropriate reasoning for simply rinsing off meat in cold fresh water, mainly so that you can control the last bit of water that goes on it. This is not to be confused with hosing a carcass off, dunking it in creek water, salted water baths, milk soaks, or other commonly held practices with regard to wild game preparation. That being said, not all meat requires a rinse, either.


However, it always requires some sort of dry-out method for good cooking methods. Steaks get patted dry, salted, then put in the fridge for at least an hour, or up to 2 days. Birds get hung so that the skin dries out.
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#3544038 - 01/12/14 10:13 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: TAFKAP]
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I always do.

I use the same knife for pretty much all cuts on a deer, so contamination could be a problem with any part the knife cuts. Same with fish, the knife gets thrust through the stomach before they are filed. All meat gets tossed in ice water. I try to dry things as much as possible(while still keeping it cold) before packaging for the freezer...and pat dry before seasoning prior to cooking.
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#3544062 - 01/12/14 10:46 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: BamaProud]
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I rinse wild game to remove fur and/or clotted blood from shot wounds
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#3544082 - 01/12/14 11:23 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: catman529]
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I rinse game meat such as rabbit and squirrel and pat dry. With fish I rinse and wash and partially fill bag with water before freezing. I do this because this is the way my grandpa taught me.
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#3544212 - 01/13/14 06:56 AM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Inkstainz]
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#3544243 - 01/13/14 07:24 AM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
NO!!!!!

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Didn't post my why, water is the perfect breeding environment for all forms of bacteria, mostly the bad kinds. It is also the perfect transporter for such. If I have to clean up an area (gut shot, etc.) I will fill a bucket with water and a very small amount of antibacterial soap and wipe down the affected area with a dampened rag, rinse, re-wipe until clean, then change the water and wipe the area clean. I try to avoid dragging the carcass through open water when getting out of the woods as well.
My personal rule of thumb, if we do have a deer that was gut shot, it gets skinned, quartered and chilled ASAP, I get the bad stuff as far away and as quickly from the rest of the uncontaminated deer meat to prevent any deadly bacteria from spreading during the hanging/aging process.
I also, make sure my cutting tools do not cross contaminate, if I am cutting the bad stuff away, that tool is used there until done, then washed in hot soapy water before using again somewhere else.

Most importantly, water will not kill bacteria, it just provides a better breeding ground and transportation method to other areas.

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#3544383 - 01/13/14 08:53 AM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: JMcB]
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I don't rinse or soak big game although its seems to be pretty standard with wild boar. I soak small game and waterfowl in a bowl in the refrigerator overnight to get the blood out of the wounds. I also freeze small game and waterfowl in water to cut down on freezer burn.
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#3545117 - 01/13/14 05:31 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: JimFromTN]
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There is no way you can fillet a mess of crappie and not get a scale or few on the fillets. I like to lay fillets in a deep pan and let the faucet roll them around to wash the scales out and over the top of the pan. No matter how hard I try, I can't get a deer ham from field to the butcher table without having a hair or two that I rinse off.
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#3545154 - 01/13/14 05:51 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Jmed]
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 Originally Posted By: Jmed
There is no way you can fillet a mess of crappie and not get a scale or few on the fillets. I like to lay fillets in a deep pan and let the faucet roll them around to wash the scales out and over the top of the pan. No matter how hard I try, I can't get a deer ham from field to the butcher table without having a hair or two that I rinse off.


Thing is, the hair comes off easier when the meat is dry then when it is wet. If I have some hair on the meat, I wait until the surface of the meat has dried (2-3 days) and then remove it with no problem. (I realize you don't do this without a fridge for dry aging).

I recently took a similar approach with rabbits. Two of them had a bit of hair on them, so I let them sit in the fridge over night and let the skin dry out just a bit. Then the hair came right off, no problem. -not sure that I would leave rabbits out like this for more than 24 hours, though the British do actually "age" them with the fur intact.

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#3545572 - 01/13/14 09:52 PM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: Poser]
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My great grandfather was a butcher who taught my grandfather to never rinse a deer with water, so that's what I do.. Not sure why...
I have on rabbit,squirrels, etc..
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#3545940 - 01/14/14 09:02 AM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: 280longshot]
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If I have a lot of hair on something, I will rinse it off, because hand-picking it is super annoying. As others have said, that also creates secondary work in patting stuff dry.

I rinse squirrels a lot because I always get hair all over them by accident. Fish are in water their whole lives, so I can't see how washing them off matters, plus any slime seems to be a detriment to the flavor if they get frozen (this is more applicable when I scale them with skin on, which I do pretty often).

As a previous poster said, I was always raised to freeze fish fillets in water with the air pushed out (poor man's vacuum sealer, I guess), so rinsing those has zero effect for me. For big game, I try to minimize water usage, but this typically means that the outside of a whole leg gets rinsed to remove any incidental debris, but the individual cuts essentially stay dry.
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#3546005 - 01/14/14 09:44 AM Re: Do you wash/rinse game meat? [Re: 280longshot]
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 Originally Posted By: 280longshot
My great grandfather was a butcher who taught my grandfather to never rinse a deer with water, so that's what I do.. Not sure why...
I have on rabbit,squirrels, etc..


I'd expect that he didn't use water on deer for the same reasons FDXX75 described. Though, the same does apply to small game.

For some reason people treat small game differently than big game. For example, imagine this scenario: You kill a deer. You stick it in your pocket ungutted and carry it around for the rest of the day. Maybe its hot. Maybe its real hot. You throw it in the back of your truck, drive home and, eventually, when you get around to it, you gut it.

That's the way many hunters treat small game, yet they'll swear up and down about the importance of gutting a deer immediately and getting the meat cool.
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