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#3517354 - 12/26/13 06:47 PM Re: Lack of sightings? [Re: Headhunter]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: Headhunter
 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: jar
No one has mentioned the length of the firearms season. Most of my friends around here that have had their deer disappear either hunt their small spots too often or more likely the neighbors shoot whatever is brave enough to move in the daylight.


lack of sightings started with the opening of bow season. pressure had nothing to do with it.


Pressure has EVERYTHING to do with it, especially gun hunting. Deer sightings are ok, but mature buck sightings are basically over by the first week of December. Even BSK agrees that mature bucks disappear by the end of November, first of December. Would it make a difference if we had a shorter gun season? Don't know, but there is no way that our longer than 2 month gun season does not have anything to do with the mature bucks becoming vampires.


funny. our biggest bucks were killed in December.
pressure had absolutely nothing to do with my lack of sightings this year. it began with the opening of bow season before there was any pressure. long before gun season opened.
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#3517372 - 12/26/13 06:54 PM Re: Lack of sightings? [Re: stik]
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Hunting pressure absolutely CAN be a major player in deer sighting rates. However, there are also many other factors that can play a role in whether hunters see deer while hunting or not. Food sources, weather, stage of the rut, habitat type and condition, changes in deer density or herd structure, etc. Heck, I have no doubt some major influences on daylight deer activity haven't yet been discovered. Hunting pressure is just one piece of the puzzle. It can be a really big piece, as on heavily hunted public (or private) lands, but in some locations, hunting pressure can be a minimal influence.
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#3517430 - 12/26/13 07:27 PM Re: Lack of sightings? [Re: BSK]
stik
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Hunting pressure absolutely CAN be a major player in deer sighting rates. However, there are also many other factors that can play a role in whether hunters see deer while hunting or not. Food sources, weather, stage of the rut, habitat type and condition, changes in deer density or herd structure, etc. Heck, I have no doubt some major influences on daylight deer activity haven't yet been discovered. Hunting pressure is just one piece of the puzzle. It can be a really big piece, as on heavily hunted public (or private) lands, but in some locations, hunting pressure can be a minimal influence.


I believe my problem is food source related as there is not an acorn on the entire place and nothing else to keep them there.
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