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#346442 - 08/16/07 04:51 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: wlt]
deerchaser007
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50 lbs per acre,.. and still didn't shade mine out. BUT,.. i would not recommend anymore than 20 lbs if you add it to a fall mix.
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#347163 - 08/16/07 09:53 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: deerchaser007]
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What mix will you plant in Sept.? Kind of seed and lbs. each please.
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#349614 - 08/17/07 07:46 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
deerchaser007
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8 points or better....
The fall mix in pic one(fall pic) and the same mix coming in for spring(pic 2)....
50 lbs buck forage oats
15 lbs dixie reseeding clover
5 lbs yuchi or apache arrowleaf
5 lbs dwarf essex rape

And like stated in my post,.. this mix will last til july. There is no need in worrying about jumping up in the spring trying to get a plot. It will be there allready. NOTE,.. i like this cause it don't stop me from turkey hunting.

Then,. in july, you can simply mow the plot down and overseed in buckwheat. OR,.. try what i did. Mow it in june,.. reseed the clovers by breaking the ground , and sow it in buckwheat.

NOTE,...... you could add in around 20 lbs of buckwheat to the fall mix. I should receive some reseeding when i turn mine back under. This will just give you some fast forage til all the other stuff comes in.
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#350676 - 08/18/07 02:02 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: deerchaser007]
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Thanks Deerchaser007,
I am planning on planting 25 lbs. wheat, 25 lbs. buck forage oats, 10 lbs dixie clover, and 5 lbs. rape. I will add 5 more lbs. clover, do you think the wheat and oats mix will be ok? Also do you think Sept. 15 would be to late to plant? I have not planted yuchi or apache arrowleaf clover do most co-op's carry it?
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#351563 - 08/18/07 10:00 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
deerchaser007
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 Originally Posted By: 8 POINTS OR BETTER
Thanks Deerchaser007,
I am planning on planting 25 lbs. wheat, 25 lbs. buck forage oats, 10 lbs dixie clover, and 5 lbs. rape. I will add 5 more lbs. clover, do you think the wheat and oats mix will be ok? Also do you think Sept. 15 would be to late to plant? I have not planted yuchi or apache arrowleaf clover do most co-op's carry it?


25 lb wheat, 25 lb oats will work well
you can plant anytime in september or first of october. Don't plant by a date,.. plant on a good prediction of rainfall coming.
The co-op's in my area carry yuchi. If you have trouble at the co-op,.. go to cooperseeds.com.......... you for sure need this arrowleaf in your mix. If not,... up the crimson to 20 lbs.
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#362506 - 08/24/07 05:07 AM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: deerchaser007]
Matt74
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Deerchaser007, Is the 5lbs of DER enough for a good fall/winter planting? My plot will be mainly for fall/winter, b/c the ground will be planted in green beans next year. Would you change any of the mixture for this purpose?
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#363941 - 08/24/07 07:13 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: Matt74]
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Matt74,... yes i would change it. You do not need the arrowleaf. You can use 50 lbs oats or wheat/20 lbs crimson/5 lbs der.

The oats and rape will carry you thru winter. While the crimson kicks in for early spring forage til end of may,... in which your plot will be dead and gone.

Note,.. it would not hurt to throw in a extra 25 lbs of wheat or oats either. Most people are gonna sow alittle heavier this year. BUT,.. don't get carried away. Throwing to much of one seed down can kill out one of your other seeds. I did this last year in a oats/winter greens mix. I oversowed the oats and it nearly completely stopped the winter greens from even germinating. With that said,.. it might not hurt to just plant the mix,.. then wait a few weeks to see how much pressure its gonna get. If pressure is high,.. top sow in some winter wheat.
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#363950 - 08/24/07 07:18 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: Matt74]
deerchaser007
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 Originally Posted By: Matt74
Deerchaser007, Is the 5lbs of DER enough for a good fall/winter planting? My plot will be mainly for fall/winter, b/c the ground will be planted in green beans next year. Would you change any of the mixture for this purpose?


by the way,. 5 lbs is plenty when you mix it with oats or wheat. 5 lbs of rape is alot of seed. Thats like asking is 5 lbs of ladino enough for a acre. When you starty sowing small seeds like this,.. they can go a long way.
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#364230 - 08/24/07 10:06 PM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: deerchaser007]
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Good advice deerchaser!
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#364546 - 08/25/07 06:14 AM Re: accidental success ... Check it out!! [Re: Boone 58]
Matt74
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Thanks Deerchaser007, I will give this a try.
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