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#3501381 - 12/15/13 12:03 PM The 2nd Date Went Better Than the First.....
DixieCrafter
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The first outing with the new PCE resulted in a 297 with 40X's. The 2nd outing last night went a little better with a 300 with 45X's! Need to get that X count up. Not too shabby for having the bow exactly one week! Need some decent weather to shoot outside!



This new PCE has been stupid simple to tune! Hands down the easiest bow to tune that I've ever shot. The bow is shooting much better that I am for sure!

This is my first Hoyt with Spiral cams and there is a steep learning curve with these cams! You're not going to cheat the Spirals and they SURE WILL keep you honest. Shooting the Spirals at 64 pounds for 60+ shots indoors is a good workout! It seems like shooting the Spirals I use either more or a different set of muscles. It's looking like Spirals and a Hinge are a match made in heaven!

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#3501404 - 12/15/13 12:30 PM Re: The 2nd Date Went Better Than the First..... [Re: DixieCrafter]
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Very nice!!

Did you do any yoke tuning to get those results?

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#3501662 - 12/15/13 03:39 PM Re: The 2nd Date Went Better Than the First..... [Re: UTGrad]
Crow Terminator
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I have always heard that the Spirals on a Hoyt were what most target guys/gals preferred. I talked to Cara (Fernandez) at Kentucky ASA this year and that's what she recommended for me if I wanted to jump to a Hoyt.
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#3501682 - 12/15/13 03:51 PM Re: The 2nd Date Went Better Than the First..... [Re: Crow Terminator]
DixieCrafter
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UTG, what no foreplay? You just go for the money shot right off the bat? I'll have you know I was raised different than that!!! You'll have to at least buy me lunch before I give up the goods on my tuning secrets!

Crow, almost without exception all the Pros shoot the Spiral cam!
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#3502005 - 12/15/13 07:21 PM Re: The 2nd Date Went Better Than the First..... [Re: DixieCrafter]
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 Originally Posted By: DixieCrafter
UTG, what no foreplay? You just go for the money shot right off the bat? I'll have you know I was raised different than that!!! You'll have to at least buy me lunch before I give up the goods on my tuning secrets!

Crow, almost without exception all the Pros shoot the Spiral cam!


Lol

Well with the RKT cams on my Spyder I'm able to get bare shaft bullet holes at 5 yards and dang near bullet holes at 20 yards by putting some pre lean into the cam. Ray Knight and OnTarget7 on AT advised this and Matt (Energy Wave) added twists to the left yoke and removed twists from the right. 13/16ths center shot and level nock point and she's shooting. Not sure if this same method is employed tuning Spirals.

I'd like to try Spirals sometime. Like you mentioned almost all the Hoyt shooters shoot Spirals. I've heard they won't allow poor form at the wall.

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#3502403 - 12/16/13 12:06 AM Re: The 2nd Date Went Better Than the First..... [Re: UTGrad]
DixieCrafter
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 Originally Posted By: UTGrad
 Originally Posted By: DixieCrafter
UTG, what no foreplay? You just go for the money shot right off the bat? I'll have you know I was raised different than that!!! You'll have to at least buy me lunch before I give up the goods on my tuning secrets!

Crow, almost without exception all the Pros shoot the Spiral cam!


Lol

Well with the RKT cams on my Spyder I'm able to get bare shaft bullet holes at 5 yards and dang near bullet holes at 20 yards by putting some pre lean into the cam. Ray Knight and OnTarget7 on AT advised this and Matt (Energy Wave) added twists to the left yoke and removed twists from the right. 13/16ths center shot and level nock point and she's shooting. Not sure if this same method is employed tuning Spirals.

I'd like to try Spirals sometime. Like you mentioned almost all the Hoyt shooters shoot Spirals. I've heard they won't allow poor form at the wall.


Every bow I set out to tune I approach on an individual basis, because I have learned that this dayum wheeled contraptions are almost as different as people and the people who shoot them. When tuning nothing is set in stone and what works on one bow may not work on another identical model.

I've had bows that were tuned to perfection and then change the threads and everything goes to hell and wind up having to move the rest to an extreme left or right. I have completely disassembled a bow all the way to it's most naked components and then put it all back together and find that absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch, and I mean nothing changed in the tune upon shooting the bow again. Duh! How can that be?

One bow likes zero cam lean and the next one you wonder how the string stays in the track. I have encountered bows with a lot of cam lean and the cam timing way off that shot perfectly thru paper!

With the new PCE I shot the bow to make the sure the threads had settled. The bow shot beautifully thru paper. Shot the bow some more! Then I checked the cam timing and I put one twist in the control cable and the timing is right where I like it. Then I put 1.5 twists in the right side of the yoke of the buss cable and then shot the bow thru paper again. Minor cam lean gone and the paper tears DID NOT change as evidenced in the pic of the paper tear previously posted. Now it's time to just leave it alone and just shoot it!

Whenever I run into you again you're welcome to shoot my PCE with Spirals and you probably won't like them! Some say they are an acquired taste like scotch! Spirals have no valley and the hardest wall of any cam out there. You creep it tells on you! Shooting Spirals with a hinge you have to learn to relax to fire the release without creeping. Some people swear by them, others swear at them!

The more I shoot the Spirals the more I like them!
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#3503591 - 12/16/13 06:34 PM Re: The 2nd Date Went Better Than the First..... [Re: DixieCrafter]
Pinwheeled
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Spirals are so dang nice. Probably my favorite cam ever created. I could go on and on but I'll just leave it at that. They certainly have their haters but that's fine. They can stick to two track binary cams then ;\)
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