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#3498671 - 12/13/13 08:16 AM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: Mr.Bro]
krazykarl_13
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My friend has had good luck with his small epic axis arrows. They are pretty light. If you make a good shot, it's most likely going to pass through with any arrow on a whitetail.
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#3499679 - 12/13/13 10:42 PM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: knightrider]
DixieCrafter
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
on thin whitetail bones how much more penetration do you need? thru a rib, thru the lungs, out the other rib, in the dirt


I guess they aren't satisfied until the arrow sinks up to the fletching in the dirt after a pass through!

 Originally Posted By: Hoss
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#3499956 - 12/14/13 09:14 AM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: DixieCrafter]
DMAG
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I have done calculation after calculation and have come to the most amazing equation evaluation that has ever come to bow hunting. I have shot about as many arrows as you can think of and determined with the new bows at 70 lbs penetration will not ever be an issue. I am in electrical engineering and have helped many mechanical engineers do tests for projects and fun mostly and as much as I would like to say I have come up with a magical equation, I can honestly say it hasnt happened. The nice thing with standard sized arrows is you can nock and sling, with no rest adjustments. I can say that lighter arrows are nice for yard estimated, but from my shooting I have come to like a hair stiffer arrow and a heavier weight arrow. I tend to be more accurate with them. I like Easton FMJs and Rage heads. On a target there will be a hair more penetration with the micro diameter shaft, but It really comes down to how well your bow is tuned for the arrow. All the bows energy being put into a larger shaft is better than 90 percent energybeing put into a smaller shaft.
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#3500674 - 12/14/13 08:13 PM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: DMAG]
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Wasted energy with complete pass throughs and 2 holes is still better than complete energy and only none hole.
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#3500913 - 12/14/13 10:53 PM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: Mr.Bro]
Hoss
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bro
Wasted energy with complete pass throughs and 2 holes is still better than complete energy and only none hole.


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Agreed

Plus if my Broomstick arrow id buried at least 6 inches into the dirt then maybe the deer will trip over it as it exits the area! 2 inches deep will just not get the tripping aspect of my recovery process done.
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#3501056 - 12/15/13 07:11 AM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: Hoss]
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Lol Hoss

Now that's just plain mean

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#3501179 - 12/15/13 09:06 AM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: UTGrad]
DMAG
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If you use Rage heads than all you got to do is pull a draw off on em and they pass out like them fainting goats. Im gonna start using fat shafts to give em a real speed bump \:\)
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#3501570 - 12/15/13 02:20 PM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: DMAG]
Mr.Bro
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Hoss has been shooting "fat arrows" before "fat arrows" were cool.

Like early 70S.
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#3503619 - 12/16/13 06:48 PM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: DMAG]
Pinwheeled
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 Originally Posted By: DMAG
I have done calculation after calculation and have come to the most amazing equation evaluation that has ever come to bow hunting. I have shot about as many arrows as you can think of and determined with the new bows at 70 lbs penetration will not ever be an issue. I am in electrical engineering and have helped many mechanical engineers do tests for projects and fun mostly and as much as I would like to say I have come up with a magical equation, I can honestly say it hasnt happened. The nice thing with standard sized arrows is you can nock and sling, with no rest adjustments. I can say that lighter arrows are nice for yard estimated, but from my shooting I have come to like a hair stiffer arrow and a heavier weight arrow. I tend to be more accurate with them. I like Easton FMJs and Rage heads. On a target there will be a hair more penetration with the micro diameter shaft, but It really comes down to how well your bow is tuned for the arrow. All the bows energy being put into a larger shaft is better than 90 percent energybeing put into a smaller shaft.


You lost me here...

-Why would you have to make rest adjustments for a smaller diameter arrow and not a "standard" diameter? There isn't really a "standard" diameter arrow.

-If your bow is tuned correctly and all things equal, how would a bow put more energy behind a larger diameter arrow than a small diameter arrow?

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#3506776 - 12/18/13 07:15 PM Re: Thin Diameter Arrows for Penetration? [Re: Pinwheeled]
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I shot fat xx78's for years and never had a problem blowing through deer. Marketing hype mostly, but I do like shooting small diameter carbon arrows.
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